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paule
(@paule)
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I've got into WW2 via USA airborne but want to broaden my game play so am thinking german Heer.

What's putting me off is the thought of a spring rifle (My Garand is bad enough and leagues better than what you guys have), what's the deal with a sub machine gun (mp40) instead of a rifle? Is it frowned upon and will it reduce when I can play?

Thanks for the advice... (The Mrs has said she will bank roll the change for christmas - reckon £250ish for the uniform, webbing and hat plus gun).

If I do end up getting an MP40 taiwangun do a steel or bakelite version - how does each of these sit within the impression?

Thanks guys as you can guess I'm a real newbie to the darkside...

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Topic starter Posted : 20/11/2016 8:58 pm




JaseB
(@jaseb)
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Get a nice Kar98, nothing quite as iconic. An MP40 would be issued to NCO's and officers. You could alway go for a Ppsh. I'll get an MP40 but I am awaiting the KWA gas one.


G&G MG42, PPS Kar98k, KWC P08 and patiently awaiting the KWA MP40 GBB.

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Posted : 20/11/2016 9:45 pm




(@lord-elpus)
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Go late war, Stg 44, good solid weapon for this, ( maybe not in real life!) 44 blouse and berdmutze, choice of boots and camo if you want.

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Posted : 20/11/2016 10:03 pm




(@lord-elpus)
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BERGMUTZE! ........fracking predictive text!

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Posted : 20/11/2016 10:04 pm




paule
(@paule)
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I'm really not keen on a springer (Kar). How about a captured garand? or more seriously back to the mp40 (surely better than a ppsh).

I didn't think ww2 events normally allowed gas guns?

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Topic starter Posted : 20/11/2016 10:06 pm




paule
(@paule)
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Can't really go MP44 as I am trying to get as much flexibility to the loadout as possible (early uniform etc)

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Topic starter Posted : 20/11/2016 10:07 pm




BootedFeet
(@bootedfeet)
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in WW2 airsoft it's a case of bring what you like, any German weapon is great, and the AGM MP40a is a great little gun for the money, K98s are nice to see and organisers will often try to encourage their use by more favourable rules, to dubious effect. Later in the war the Germans started to employ automatic weapons in large numbers anyway, having learnt from their Soviet opponents in the East, so it's not as historically inaccurate as you might think.
Chances are whatever allied section you run up against will be chock-full of tommy guns, so answer in kind I say.

I've fired a bullet on every continent. Nearly hit someone, too.



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Posted : 20/11/2016 10:10 pm




(@lord-elpus)
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Ppsh41, much better than mp 40, in Airsoft ww2 AND in real life!

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Posted : 20/11/2016 11:05 pm




Hänschen klein
(@hanschen-klein)
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Some organisers don`t care what weapon you bring some like it to be slightly more accurate so limit the type of weapon.
PPsh limits you to eastern front games
Stg a great weapon for late war
K98 fantastic but got rid of mine because we were always getting `White lasered` by Thompsons
go for Mp40 Early war right through to late war.
Can`t go wrong





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Posted : 21/11/2016 6:45 am




dadio
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Yup get an mp40 to begin with ,they are cheap and get the job done , later when you want more of a challenge you can get a Kar98 .
I'd steer away from the Ppsh ,if you are starting a new impression from scratch then just get the correct gun from the start .
The mp44 is another great gun but its late war so less versatile and they need downgrading out of the box as they usually come in at around 400fps .

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





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Posted : 21/11/2016 7:49 am




(@lord-elpus)
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mp 40, be prepared to change a few bits if your choosing an AGM. still halfway through improving mine, rebuilt g/box, spring for fps, changed crappy wiring, mosfet, small lipo battery. still got to sort out that stupid trigger switch to micro switch, then hop unit and barrel in attempt for some accuracy. other than that I like it a lot................but my Ppsh is much better!

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Posted : 21/11/2016 7:58 am




(@lord-elpus)
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The real answer to the question is of course,..........to have more than 1! you need kar 98, mp 40, g43, stg 44, mg42, luger, p38, mg38, mp 41, mp 28, that should just about cover it........and clear out your bank balance!

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Posted : 21/11/2016 8:10 am




(@lord-elpus)
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I did forget the VIS 35 Radom, (P35p) but no airsoft manufacturer make them anyway.

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Posted : 21/11/2016 8:31 am




MartinR
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If you only have to get one German gun, go for an MP40. Good for the whole war, and is of course a style classic :) wrt th ebakelite thing, most MP40s (and MP38s) had bakelite parts, some were just different colours to the others, the Airsoft 'bakelite' MP40s just have brownish bakelite instead of the black.

If you want to use a rifle, just use your Garand. Its a rifle, and from five feet away that is good enough. Most of us aren't that fussy. Rifles are also good for the whole war. I used to just use an M14, although I've hacked it around a bit so it looks like a G43 now.

If you can't bothered with the ballache of fiddling with the AGM MP40 (although mine lasted fine for five years out of the box), Firesupport do a very reasonable upgrade service for the AGM which replaces the barrel, hop and motor - I sent mine there after the motor finally burned out.

You may find a German loadout including a new gun comes to a bit more than £250 though, depending what bits you get and where from. Good thing about Germans is you'll always get a game (unless it is in the Pacific).

Cheers
Martin

"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.

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Posted : 21/11/2016 12:18 pm




paule
(@paule)
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Cheers all, I reckonec £250 plus the gun lol. That's for the basics. Not including some of the fancy webbing bits. I think mp40 then and early war heer. Should open up a few more games for me. Good stuff...

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Topic starter Posted : 21/11/2016 9:38 pm




TheChef
(@thechef)
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An MP40 is a good choice, I've had mine for 5 or 6 years and apart from replacing a broken stock it's been fine. The performance is fine out of the box for WW2 games which aren't as "shooty" as modern open games, so it should serve you well :good:

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Posted : 21/11/2016 10:06 pm




Bravo-2-6
(@bravo-2-6)
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Go late war, Stg 44, good solid weapon for this, ( maybe not in real life!) 44 blouse and berdmutze, choice of boots and camo if you want.

Bergmutze or standard M43 field cap?

One is pretty unique to the Gebirgs so would look out of place with an STG44 :P

Jack

Designated Support Gunner- Maybe one day i may actually hit someone!

Armoury
Germany: MG42, MP40, Mauser M712
Italy: Berretta M38A
U.S.A: M1918SLR B.A.R
U.K: Lee Enfield SMLE

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Posted : 22/11/2016 7:07 pm




Bunker
(@bunker)
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£250 will not get you that far in terms of a gun, uniform and equipment. I would suggest mid war impression as this can be both used for early and late. The uniform is a lot more expensive than American and the equipment due to being made from mostly leather and wool. Here are a list of sites that I suggest:
http://www.gavinmilitaria.com

http://www.richardaunderwood.com
http://www.theregaliaspecialist.com
http://militaria-net.co.uk/index.php

Cheers, Niall



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Posted : 22/11/2016 7:18 pm




dadio
(@dadio)
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Just remember you don't need it all for your first game as German ,£250 is boots ,trousers ,tunic ,helmet ,Y straps and maybe a bread bag too ,from there just borrow the rest , then people are always selling kit so just keep an eye out ,most kit looks better weathered a little .

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





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Posted : 22/11/2016 9:56 pm




(@lord-elpus)
Prominent Member

Mountain troops used the stg44, Jack.....search on google, photo's found.

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Posted : 22/11/2016 11:23 pm




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