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Re: Airsoft MG34

Postby kingmaker » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:51 pm

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Hi Meet Bren ,thats right Sgt Bren Gunner,as you can clearly see he has been taken out by superior German weaponry,due to the fact that his magazine is sticking up 12 inches above his gun
and so giving away his position. :shock:
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Re: Airsoft MG34

Postby dadio » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:41 pm

That sounds like fighting talk !
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i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
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Re: Airsoft MG34

Postby kingmaker » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:25 pm

:good: In all seriousness that piece of metal is just a target i have at the bottom of my garden i shoot at it if a get bored at work,or if i need to test a gun is working and is sighted in before i pack it away to take to a game.A metal target indictes a hit by sound.
I did read some where that interrogation of German Infantry revealed that the bren magazine could give away your position and it became part of standard training to try and set up some kind of camo to obstruct the magazine visability.Sounds feasible but i would have thought British infantry would have realised that themselves maybe,but who knows,a lot of facts quoted from the war bear no relation to the facts sometimes.
After fitting of the concave SCS nub i cant see any major improvement in groupings and not In range either in fact that may have reduced .It gives a a trajectory like r-hop where as you increase hop it just keeps going up at a steeper angle,throwing of the elevation setting of your sights then the BB at the end of its flight it just drops out of the air,suddenly,into the ground.
So it did'nt work for me but other people swear by it,reviews that appear like random reviews are often secret biased marketing in my opinion.
As the gun did'nt seem to have a problem there was not that much room for improvement, i shimmed out the last bit of side to side play in the hop arm,although that was already ok as well.
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Here are some bipod parts under construction.The legs are made from square tubing that was part of a pop-up gazebo.
I also never made the gun with a mind to ww2 games,i did for the crack although the last week and half of finishing off has been less fun than sticking pins in my eyes.
Also i know support weapons are restricted at many games ,and not many people would want the job of loader any way.
However i have turned something old into something new using some free re-cycled material,some of the sheet steel is new and many billet ali parts are made from aircraft grade aluminium,that i get from a steam rally that goes of every year near me,You can buy small lengths of quality aluminium from ebay,its just quick to find and get ordered.
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Bi-pod is now in place wish i had done that earlier,that thing is a hand full when you want to rest it down.
The bipod is just blued with a flame,let it cool a bit and then apply oil. :good:
If you want all your proportions exact then an ak47 re-skin is not the way to go,doing it the way I did saved time and had more guarantee of a working air soft gun,I do know a guy who has 2 mg34 but he lives a long way away so getting dimensions would have been a full day trip.
The drum magazine has needed development,although my conversion of the short Ak mag into a flash mag does work now,,originally it had parts from a broken flash mag,but they were giving some problems,I may have over wound it, does'nt seem to give any warning of over winding.
Luckily I had already sourced a new flash mag ,for less than £5 and transferred most of the internals to my build.
Generally knock off flash mags are listed as one of the top 10 things to avoid in air soft,even the lonex originals wear out,you can get spare internals from the WGC Shop for them.
Also I was going to use an old cyma v3 gearbox,but I already had a new G&G v3 knocking about,it was only £40,normally a new one is $180.
It does look better finished than the cyma,but I don't consider G&G that special to be honest,The full auto stopped working,I have seen that before on a G&G v3 gearbox.Its due to the trigger sear being too short,the part that goes between the trigger the switch trolley,luckily I had about 5 v3 Sears in my spares kit,one of them had a longer sear by 0.75 mm and this cleared the problem.Internaly I have not done anything,just added more shims to the gears,it already had a metal spring guide with bearing.
You don't need a expensive gearbox to get good shooting ,it's more about durability,,accuracy mostly comes from barrel and hop ,and having it securely mounted and well lined up.I am running sub 350 fps and only 12 maybe 15 rpm for safety,and durability.The German guns were known for their high rate of fire ,so at 15rpm on my gun it will give it a bit of zip sound rather than a thud thud thud like on a Bren or on a Yank support weapon. :shock:
To be honest a high rate of fire can mean you have blown your load before you have got the the job done,that goes for air soft and real combat,so it's not always a good thing.
Also I have soldered on a Deans electrical plug I gave up on the Tamiya connectors,(real name for those is Kyosho connector)they can have intermittent connection when worn,
To be honest I think there is a lot of hype around some airside teching mods,and after market parts,it's about marketing,sometimes they don't do anything if make it worse,and you can spend a lot of money ,some parts and mods can be essential also though.
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Re: Airsoft MG34

Postby dadio » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:00 am

That's looking really good , the bipod came out very nice indeed . A two person MG team is not just to make it more real life ,it also serves another purpose , MG's tend to be heavy and the crew are at the beck and call of the rest of the squad so your always on the run , switching rolls between gunner and loader every 10 min saves you getting too tired , we all want to enjoy ourselves and being cream crackered after the first hour can spoil your day .
Absolute accuracy of design is very hard to achieve for the hobby builder , you can't just design a custom shaped gearbox to fit the gun , the really important thing is to look at the desired real gun and decide what features are iconic and need to be closely copied and where you can exercise a bit of artistic licence , I think you did both these things very well and you should be very pleased with what you achieved :good:
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m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well

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Re: Airsoft MG34

Postby kingmaker » Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:45 pm

Yes thanls for that I am by my no means claiming this to be a perfect 1:1 replica,as I have alreadystated earlier,it satisfies my own enjoyment..
The tooling to make gun parts is mega expensive ,making one off copies is a time consuming challenge.obviously CAD design and rapid prototyping aleviate this burden making an old fossil like me who shapes with hand and eye.with the stroke of a marker or scriber redundant,3d printing makes things affordable and profitable,there are many 3d printed nerf gun body kits coming out of china.
One of my custom guns i made after evening tea and on sat/sun mornings i worked out i would get £5500 in my day job for doing that work.



My gun is only 4.2 kg and the drum mag adds another 1kg, well under half the real steel guns weight.
In the photo above i had a selection of batteries from hobby king.
Bottom left is a twin leg nanotech battery .,the nanotechs are disliked by the rc car world for not lasting,some of mine have failed but they are dirt cheap.
Top left is a small 7.4v lipo that is square in cross section and so fits ak 47's ,most lipo,s are too flat and wide,i keep one in my pocket as a fit any gun spare,they fit in m4 stock tubes too
Bottom right is 7.4v,2200 mah 20c rc car battery ,i got 4 of those for £20 ,they seem more recoverable from over discharge than other lipos
The yellow battery is a 11.1 v lipo from a drone and gives my gun 18rps,which is a bit fast for me,with a lonex a1 motor and mosfet it gives 26 rps ,my cyma motor in the mg34 is set for torque and not speed ,and the G&G wiring is thin and may restrict current flow and so ROF .too
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Re: Airsoft MG34

Postby kingmaker » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:52 am

So i took the gun to a normal skirmish at a site called Hunting Ground near Boston UK.
i was lying prone in the dense Forrest,and who comes running into our position at full speed,a speed-softer in beetle mask,pistol in one hand and spare mag in the other,i let him have it,with a good burst.
The warm glow rising up inside my body was great
I used it till lunch without issue an got some good kills. Generally is was used in a constantly mobile role,and to get a line of fire in woodland the bi[pod was not much use only to set the gun down between games.
When i did go to a smaller rifle later after hefting the MG when testing over several weeks and during the morning game a 37 inch assault rifle felt like nothing was there ,to manipulate and aim,so using a big mother of an MG is actually good training.
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