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Re: Ration packs - your questions answered.

Postby Steiner » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:37 am

Ebay is your best bet, Marsha.
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Re: Ration packs - your questions answered.

Postby marsha » Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:02 pm

there so many on ebay not which one is the right one to get
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Postby Sgt.Heide » Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:09 pm

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_trkparms ... 286.c0.m14

Lots under a search for "ration pack". Try to pay as close to a tenner as possible, including post if you can. Again, I'll reiterate that you don't have to get one if you dont' want to!

There are currently some on Ebay for £7.50 "buy it now" + £4.50 p&p. Older menus but, still good.
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Re: Ration packs - your questions answered.

Postby Chomley-Warner » Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:23 pm

I have to say I'm a bit gob-smacked by the new ration pack! I found the old ones almost completely inedible. Well, OK, they were edible and I'm sure I was getting sufficient calories and nutrients but I didn't find ANY menu pleasant. Bullet-like sausages/faggots, puddings that were sweeter than eating a bag of sugar etc (I still have bits and bobs of the least appetising stuff in my food box. I don't know why, I'll never eat it!)
* cue some ex-serviceman to say they would be happy to eat them everyday for the rest of their lives :giggle: *

But the new kit sounds very tempting:

MENU 1 : Strawberry Porridge, Western Tuna Pasta, Apple Raspberry Blackcurrant Fruit Purée, Steak & Vegetables, Fruit Cocktail in Pineapple, Fruit & Nut Mix, Fruit & Nut Oat Bar, Raspberry Shortcake Biscuit, Exotic Isotonic, Raspberry Squash, Lemon Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Original, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 2: Oat Breakfast, Chicken & Vegetable Soup, Strawberry Banana Apple Fruit Purée, Chicken Tikka Masala, Pilau Rice, Lemon Sponge Pudding, Oat & Fruit Biscuit, Exotic Isotonic, Berry Squash, Raspberry Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Mint, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 3: Pork Sausage Omelette & Beans, Mexican Tuna Pasta, Apple Peach Fruit Purée, Chili Corn Carne, Pilau Rice, Choc Chip Cake, Fruit & Nut Mix, Mixed Fruit Grains, Oreo Cookies, Cherry isotonic, Orange & Cranberry Squash, Lemon Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Orange, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 4: All Day Breakfast, Ham & Tomato Noodle, Kiwi Passion Apple Fruit Puree, Paella, Rice Pudding with Jam Sachet, Fruit & Nut Mix, Mixed Fruit Grains, Ginger Biscuits, Lucozade Lemon Isotonic, Strawberry Squash, Raspberry Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Original, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 5: Chicken Sausage & Beans, Western Tuna Pasta, Mango Banana Apple fruit Puree, Beef Ravioli in Mushroom Sauce, Fruit Cocktail in Light Syrup, Fruit & Nut Mix, Oat Bar, Ginger Biscuits, Lucozade Orange Isotonic, Blackcurrant Squash, Lemon Energy drink, Hot Chocolate Mint, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 6: Natural Muesli, Pasta salad, Mango Banana Apple fruit Puree, Yellow Chicken Curry, Pilau Rice, Pineapple Tidbits, Biscuit & Sultana Flapjack, Oreo Cookies, Lucozade Orange isotonic, Blackcurrant squash, Lemon Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Orange, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 7: Fruity Muesli, Italian Tuna Pasta, Kiwi Passion Apple Fruit Puree, Sweet & Sour Chicken, Pilau Rice, Sliced Peaches with Syrup, Caramel Snack, Oat & Fruit Biscuit, Lucozade Lemon Isotonic, Strawberry Squash, Raspberry Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Original, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 8: Stawberry Porridge, Western Tuna Pasta, Apple Peach Fruit Puree, vegetable Korma, Pilau Rice, Sliced Pears in Syrup, Fruit & Nut Mix, Oat Bar, Cherry Isotonic, Orange & Cranberry Squash, Lemon Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Mint, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 9: Fruitful Muesli, Salmon Pasta Salad, Strawberry Banana Apple Fruit Puree, Beef & Cassava, Sliced Apples, Fruit & Nut Mix, Cranberry Energy Bar, Raspberry Shortcake Biscuit, Lemon & Lime Isotonic, Berry Squash, Raspberry Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Orange, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 10: Toasted Muesli, Mixed Bean Pasta, Apple Raspberry Blackcurrant Fruit Puree, Chicken Arrabiata, Fruit Cocktail in Pineapple, Fruit & Nut Mix, Strawberry Fruit Bar, Oat & Fruit Biscuit, Exotic Isotonic, Rasberry Squash, Lemon Energy, Hot Chocolate Original, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 11: Pork Sausage & Beans, Tuna Chilli Pasta, Apple Raspberry Blackcurrant Fruit Puree, Tuna Rigatoni, Lemon Sponge Pudding, Fruit & Nut Mix, Caramel Energy Bar, Oreo Cookies, Exotic Isotonic, Rasberry Squash, Lemon Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Original, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 12: Toasted Muesli, Tomato & Basil Soup, Strawberry Banana Apple Fruit Puree, Chunky Chicken, Pilau Rice, Exotic Fruit Cocktail, Oat Bar, Ginger Biscuits, Lemon & Lime Isotonic, Berry Squash, Raspberry Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Mint, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 13: Fruitful Muesli, Chicken & Veg Soup, Apple Peach Fruit Puree, Chicken Tomato, Sliced Pears in Syrup, Fruit & Nut Mix, Cranberry Energy Bar, Ginger Biscuit, Cherry isotonic, Orange & Cranberry Squash, Lemon Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Orange, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 14: Bacon Omelette Beans, Tomato & Basil Soup (D), Kiwi Passion Apple Fruit Puree, Lamb Curry, Pilau Rice, Sliced Peaches in Syrup, Caramel Snack Bar, Oreo Cookies, Lucozade Lemon Isotonic, Strawberry Squash, Raspberry Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Original, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 15: Fruity Muesli, Bean Pasta Salad, Mango Banana Apple Fruit Puree, Sweet & Sour, Pineapple Tidbits, Fruit & Nut Mix, Strawberry Fruit Bar, Oat & Fruit Biscuit, Lucozade Orange Isotonic, Blackcurrant Squash, Lemon Energy drink, Hot Chocolate Mint, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 16: Natural Muesli, Pasta Salad (B), Mango Banana Apple Fruit Puree, Thai Green Curry, Pilau Rice, Sliced Apple, Apricot Snack Bar, Oreo Cookies, Lucozade Orange Isotonic, Blackcurrant Squash, Lemon Energy drink, Hot Chocolate Orange, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 17: Chicken Sausage & Beans, Salmon Pasta Salad, Kiwi Passion Apple Fruit Puree, Beef Stroganoff, Pilau Rice, Rice Pudding with Jam Sachet, Fruit & Nut Mix, Golden Oat Bar, Raspberry Shortcake Biscuit, Lucozade Lemon Isotonic, Strawberry Squash, Raspberry Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Original, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 18: All Day Breakfast, Ham & Tomato Noodle, Apple Peach Fruit Puree, Green Chicken, Pilau Rice, Chocolate Chip Cake, Fruit & Nut Mix Caramel Energy Bar, Cherry Isotonic, Orange & Cranberry Squash, Raspberry Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Mint, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 19: Sausage Omelette & Beans, Mexican Tuna Pasta, Strawberry Banana Apple Fruit Puree, Beef Rib &, Fruit Cocktail in light Syrup, Fruit & Nut Mix, Biscuit & Sultana Flapjack, Raspberry Shortcake Biscuit, Lemon & Lime Isotonic, Berry Squash, Raspberry Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Orange, non food items (Please see list below).

MENU 20: Oat Breakfast, Italian Tuna Pasta, Apple Raspberry Blackcurrant Fruit Puree, Paella, Exotic Fruit Cocktail, Fruit & Nut Mix, Fruit & Oat Snack Bar, Ginger Biscuit, Lemon & Lime Isotonic, Raspberry Squash, Lemon Energy Drink, Hot Chocolate Original, non food items (Please see list below).

Non Food Items: 4 sugar sachets, 4 Beverage Whitener Sachets, 3 Coffee Sachets, 2 Teabags, Boiled Sweets, Matches, Tabasco Sauce, Tissues, Steri tabs, 2 Wet Wipes, 3 Dental Chewing Gums, Re-useable poly bag, Spoon.
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Re: Ration packs - your questions answered.

Postby Sgt.Heide » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:02 pm

Those are the very latest menus I think. They certainly sound nice! Personally, I really like the corned beef hash and steak & vegetables, although you can't get them in the same pack :slap:.

Contrary to popular belief, packs are not designed to bung up your digestive system any more, nor is there bromide in the tea!
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Postby Poacher » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:04 pm

Does anyone eat the puddings?
Looking like I do you would think I did but I dont. Horrid!
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Re: Ration packs - your questions answered.

Postby Sgt.Heide » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:09 pm

The rice pudding is ok, better with some jam in it, or chocolate powder. I've yet to sample the lemon sponge but it feels soft enough. As for the others, the chocolate and the treacle, they are extremely sweet, very hard to heat up all the way through and are quite hard textured. If you do manage to heat them up all the way, the sauce in them becomes volcanically hot! The sugar calorific content of them is off the clock though, you'll be buzzing for hours after eating them! The one thing I always had left from a rat' pack was the pudding!
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Postby BedsnHerts » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:43 pm

Seeing as it's only a 24 hour thing, I'm going to try for a more 1940s cook-it-yourself vibe. I've got a few simple and semi-authentic recipes that are quick and easy to cook and only require the regular brit army mess tin set and a sharp clean knife. You can cook it all on a hexi-burner but it's heavy on the fuel tabs, so I might check out one of the modern gel fuel tommy cookers instead. You can use the back of one tin as a chopping board,

Menu 1 - Corned beef hash
Ingredients:
10g of butter
half an onion
2 small potatoes
half a can of corned beef

Fill the large tin 3/4 with water and set to boil. As the water is heating, dice the potatoes into 1cm cubes, no need to peel them. Put the diced tatties into the hot water and boil them.

Meanwhile peel and dice the onion and chop the corned beef into 1cm cubes. Keep them separate.

Test the tatties by sticking a fork in them. When they seem slightly soft they're ready (about 8 mins). Drain them and set aside.

Heat the butter in the large tin until really hot. Add the onions and fry until they start turning brown. Add the cooked potatoes, then add the corned beef. Keep stirring. The fat in the corned beef will melt. When it all starts to look a bit like dog food you're done :good: There's enough salt in the corned beef to not need anything else in the way of seasoning and it probably contains about a billion calories.

Takes about 20 minutes from start to finish. It's maybe not the most visually appealing dish but it's dee-licious. If you let the cooking pan soak in water for a few hours is also cleans up pretty easy. I can demo it at Milford if anyone's interested.
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Re: Ration packs - your questions answered.

Postby Steiner » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:51 pm

"Vot is zat dummkopf Englander doing, Karl?"
"Heh, zis is var, not cooking program. Feuer!!"
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Postby Chomley-Warner » Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:56 pm

Are you sure you wouldn't rather have an SAS role for this event Martin? The Jeds will have more than fine cuisine on their minds and little opportunity for complex cooking. You will need sustenance and nourishment for sure, that's why Pete has suggested eating straight out of tins/bags. Just like the real thing, you need to get food down your throat as quick as possible - food is a means to an end not a picnic! :wink:
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Postby BedsnHerts » Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:07 pm

:rofl:

It's not really fine cuisine and it's not especially complex either. I totally get what the Jed role is, but I enjoy doing this stuff and it adds to the immersion element for me. If we end up not having the time to do it I'll just eat the corned beef cold and throw the cayenne pepper in the Hun's eyes.
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Postby HeadShot » Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:08 pm

Dried meats are excellent too, but you'll need to take on more water if you eat them.
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Re: Ration packs - your questions answered.

Postby Sgt.Heide » Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:16 pm

BedsnHerts wrote: If we end up not having the time to do it I'll just eat the corned beef cold and throw the cayenne pepper in the Hun's eyes.


:rofl:

You can't beat a bit of bully! (beef). You are quite right of course, in that you could carry "authentic" food, albeit in modern packaging.
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Postby BedsnHerts » Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:46 pm

OK

Next question: Portable gramophone players and a suitable selection of 78 rpms - I'm assuming this will all be covered on the training day, yes?
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