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Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby CHARLEMAGNE » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:07 am

Hi dear friends.
I am setting up my WWII German paratroopers uniform.
I am looking for the camo jump smock that used (in small numbers) by paratroopers at Crete May 1941.
I find a photo from jump smock i am looking for.
Can you telll me WHICH TYPE is and WHERE i can find it ?


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http://www.ww2airsoft.org.uk/german-fallschirmjager/
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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby Luiluei » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:13 am

Hi,
Google for UK Suppliers:
- Epic militaria
- Militaria net
- Richard Underwood militaria
- Soldier of Fortune
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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby CHARLEMAGNE » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:17 am

I know all of those suppliers,but i didnt found it !!!
Can you tell me HOW (the ''type'' of the jump smock) to ask it / reach it from the suppliers ?
The guys at the photo above,can they tell me where did they bought it ?
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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby Luiluei » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:27 am

It is the "splinter" jump smock. I bought mine from Zib militaria in Germany (have an English website) but I checked Epic has it as well.
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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby Moss » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:33 am

http://www.godarsinc.com/ww2-german-fal ... p-746.html
This is Spearhead's actual website, and the smock you're looking for.
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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby _Arthur » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:38 pm

CHARLEMAGNE wrote:Hi dear friends.
I am setting up my WWII German paratroopers uniform.
I am looking for the camo jump smock that used (in small numbers) by paratroopers at Crete May 1941.
I find a photo from jump smock i am looking for.
Can you telll me WHICH TYPE is and WHERE i can find it ?


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http://www.ww2airsoft.org.uk/german-fallschirmjager/


The one on the picture is een Type2 Step-in smock in Luftwaffe Splintertarn camouflage pattern.

Spearhead is a decent supplier for them: http://stores.ebay.com/Spearhead-Militaria or http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-Luft ... 5410575482

If you have more money to spent, have a look at Panther Store: http://www.panther-store.cz/en/catalog/ ... k-3.-model but that is a Type-3 (non-step-in).
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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby CHARLEMAGNE » Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:55 pm

Wow !!
What a quick / ''instand'' support !!!
Thank you ALL for your help...
You really helped me to find out what i am looking for.
So :
Its the Type2 SplinterB Camo Jump Smock ?
Its a STEP IN type ?


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My last doubt its the different ''colors'' between the two photos.
The left jump smock has more ''dark'' brown / sand and the right photos jump smock,has ''light / grey green colors (and ''reminds'' more Creta era).
See and tell me your opinion


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ALSO...
I found this photo at the site of German paratroopers reenact group.http://www.fjr6.net/uniform_a1.html
They post a ''Creta 1941''era uniforms.
I find the left jump smock the most ''accurate'' (color..buttons) in what i am looking for ...
Its a Type2 SplinterB Camo Jump Smock or something different ?

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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby _Arthur » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:34 pm

It's all a bit of your own liking, here two other decent suppliers;

http://www.richardaunderwood.com/falsch ... model-iii/
http://www.luftwaffesupplies.com/collec ... jump-smock

But both are Type-3's.

The type-2 I have from Spearhead is a bit brownish; like the one from Luftwaffe Supplies; but not as brown as shown on the pictures of Spearhead.
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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby CHARLEMAGNE » Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:51 pm

After many questions / ''research'',i think the jump smock ''type'' that German paratroopers used in Creta 1941 (in small numbers) was :
Splinter-B - SECOND pattern...which was a ''STEP IN'' type.
The ''problem is that i found (with your help) stores / fabrik etc.which sell it,BUT NOT AT THE ''LIGHT GREY - GREEN'' color,but in a ''DARK BROWN - GREEN'' !!!
(Watch the photos i posted above and you''ll see the COLOR DIFFERENCE)

Any suggestion on that ?
Where i can find a Splinter-B - SECOND pattern in ''LIGHT GREY - GREEN'' colors ?
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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby dadio » Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:15 pm

The grey green is wrong for FJ ,that's splinter that was supplied to the Heer that had the grey background ,the browner version is splinter B used by the Luftwaffe FJ units and is more correct ,also the green is correct as it was the early version .
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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby CHARLEMAGNE » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:30 pm

dadio wrote:The grey green is wrong for FJ ,that's splinter that was supplied to the Heer that had the grey background ,the browner version is splinter B used by the Luftwaffe FJ units and is more correct ,also the green is correct as it was the early version .


So you think this one ?
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its the correct choose ?
You suggest me to buy the ''DARK BROWN - GREEN'' ?
The othger members of the forum,agree with "dadio" ?

I remind you all,that i am setting up a uniform of a german paratrooper from ''CRETA MAY 1941'' period....
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Re: Want info about German paratrooper camo jump smock

Postby Moss » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:38 pm

If it were me, I'd go with the plain green smock for a Kreta impression, the versatility of the earlier option is that the earlier option is correct for all of the war. I'm no expert but I know that Luftwaffe splinter differed from Heer splinter in that the colour was different and the shapes were scaled down.
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