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Which side?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:55 pm
by Jeff62
Just wondering which side to go with to begin with? I like the kit of both but me n a couple of mates are looking to start and we fancy being on the side that is less represented so as to up the numbers :) from looking at the game booking lists it looks like the allies fill up much quicker than Germans?

Re: Which side?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:05 am
by dadio
There's a bit of a north south divide , down south there's load's of German's further up country there's more allied , generally you get more action in German kit as well they fought everybody else , it's German V Brit or German V American or German V Russian so if you want the most action from one uniform then start with German .All way's begin with infantry no matter what nation you decide on , everybody loves the more elite troop's but you limit what games you'r kit is appropriate for so starting with infantry is the way to go ,once you have the basic kit it only usually takes minor changes or additions to transform it to a more elite unit ,for instance Brit infantry kit just needs a Dennison smock and a maroon beret and you'r in basic Brit airborne commando's ! much the same for German.Don't get hung up on perfect kit for you'r first game ,always ask the forum before you buy as there's a lot of stuff that is either poor quality or an inaccurate reproduction , anything you need for a first few games then people are happy to lend kit on a you bend it you mend it basis and there's always a kit loan section on every game thread , plus if you just want to give it a try then it's a cheaper way to see if you like it before you invest in expensive kit .
Dadio

Re: Which side?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:33 am
by prideofengland
Allo allo :good:

Welcome to the forum, just to echo Dadio's comments basic infantry is the best way to start whatever side you go for. German Heer loadout can be used at just about every game :good:

Re: Which side?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:44 am
by BootedFeet
Hello and welcome. :)

Dadio has hit the nail on the head really, German kit will get the most use, basic heer (army) fieldgreys will fit any battle on most fronts of the war and it's easy to build on it to represent more exotic units.

I'd also echo his advice about attending a game before splashing out on kit, it's pretty pricey stuff and you might find the WW2 scene is not for you (that's unlikely though). Gunman games are great for this because he has mountains of loan kit available for all sides at his games.

Whichever faction you choose, the kitguides at the top of this page are very good references, but it's always a good idea to ask the forum before you buy, the only daft questions are the ones that don't get asked!

Whoever you end up fighting for welcome aboard, I'm sure you'll enjoy your stay.

Re: Which side?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:06 am
by MartinR
I wouldn't use the game booking lists as a guide to what kit to get, lots of different reason why some games fill up faster than others (or not at all). For some reason we seem to have a British surge in the Midlands at present, but many of us have multiple impressions.

As above, you'll get the most use from German kit as they feature in every game, but given that this is not the cheapest hobby, go with what catches your fancy, and as suggested above, try it out before dumping a ton of cash on something you may not enjoy.

To echo the comments above, go for basic infantry whatever side you go for, it is usually easy enough to morph into something else should that be required. Some kit is also a bit transnational (some German equipment can be used with Russian impressions).

Cheers
Martin

Re: Which side?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:51 pm
by Hänschen klein
willkommen :good:
Go German and you can go to every event as said Basic first Borrow kit most important get to games.

PS Just seen you guys are from Ashford Kent, so keep em peeled on the forum for details for an event next May right up in your neck of the woods :whistle:

Re: Which side?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:58 pm
by Russe11
As said before, German get the most games, followed by British, American and Russians. The Japanese haven't had a game yet.
In terms of cost, I believe American is cheapest, German is most expensive and British is in-between.
I have also noticed that there is a difference in the mentality of the different sides. Americans are noisy and tend to charge around shooting anyone (Even the British). British tend to use a bit more tactics (such as using the Americans as a distraction). I have not played German so it's harder to tell what they get up to, but I get the impression they are more into the role playing.

One important factor to consider is transport. I have to travel to games by Train, for this reason I don't play German as the only practical way to carry everything is to wear the gear :giggle:

Re: Which side?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:13 am
by Jeff62
Cheers for the replies, I already have an almost complete US Ranger load out with Thompson as does a friend but I think there will be 3-5 of us in total wanting to do a section/mmg team as a group, I think we're liking the look of SS for the camos as we like to try being all stealthy and the new MG42 is very appealing :) is there much call for SS? And folks don't get funny about representing SS do they? (We don't hold any if their ideals etc we just like the camo)

Also would this be ok for an SS kit to begin with?
SS camo field cap
SS camo smock (with just any top underneath as it'll be hidden under the smock)
Field grey trousers
Gaters over some modern leather boots as got a foot issue so need comfy foot wear
Web belt

This would just be a starting kit n I'd finish it off properly over time

Re: Which side?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:49 am
by Russe11
I would suggest getting to a game or 2 with the US rangers gear you have. Then if you want to do SS, start with the basic look and add the camouflage afterwards. The basic look is always going to be suitable for more games than the more specialised. You will want something you can wear for games set before the yanks turned up. In most cases the camouflage gear is supposed to be worn over the top of the woolen tunic, so just get the woolen tunic 1st.

Re: Which side?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:33 pm
by Universal Gunner
The advice is good, basic kit rather than Gucci. I might be wrong but I think I have seen more events say no SS as they weren't there than events asking for them. And certainly events where SS camo has been specifically verboten.

It is also worth remembering that most sections will try to be at least 8 strong and that WW2 airsoft is about everybody who is there playing to the game plan and not roaming off being sneaky unless specifically asked to do so. It is about taking orders and following them otherwise the greater picture fails and the organisers spend all their time trying to remedy the cock-ups caused by people going off piste.

Cheers
Charlie

Re: Which side?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:09 pm
by dadio
The reason why we recommend basic infantry first is that to the best of our ability's we try to re create the forces that were present at the battle we are trying to re create ,so for instance market garden would use air borne and glider troops for British ,SS would only be used if they were present at the battle ,there's no stygma attached to people who want to portray SS it just limits how often you get to play, once you have basic infantry kit it only takes minor additions to make it SS .

Re: Which side?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:00 pm
by MartinR
For a basic SS impression a smock, trousers, boots+gaiters, belt and hat are fine. I'd avoid camo field caps, although there were a few around most troops just wore field grey ones and things like the pea dot M43 caps are repro fantasy items.

As mentioned above, you may unduly limit yourselves, some events are no SS, some are no camo (and some are no camo and no SS!) and if you are going to get some trousers you may as well get a jacket too. Militaria.net do some good uniform combo deals. You really can't go wrong with a basic field grey uniform and you can always put a camo smock on top.

Have a look at the uniform requirements for any events you are looking to go to though, most are fairly easy going (as in, any Allied, any Axis uniform....)

Cheers
Martin

Re: Which side?

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:39 pm
by Russe11
Once you have a basic generic German uniform, you are pretty much set for any game. Then you can do the weird and unusual impressions you like the look of.
I went mad and did a late war Aussie impression once I had the basic British impression sorted, it's not suitable for any games that have been held yet, but its great for walk-on days at local airsoft sites. There is nothing wrong with wanting to do the unusual impressions, it's just better to start with the generic impression.

Re: Which side?

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:27 pm
by Steiner
As per the kit guides, get your wool fieldgrey uniform first - correct for just about every scenario (and a belt). Second, get a helmet - don't waste money on a cap. Everything else can be added over time. :good: