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Re: Thankyou

Postby philthy » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:34 pm

Gordon the reference about knowing certain people with hot guns can't be referring to any of our 44's that were measured high at the Tim battle and moaned about then , they weren't even working for this and battle and most of us were on MP40's and the 44 we did have was measured at 242fps at the Tim battle so who had hot ones??
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Re: Thankyou

Postby jerry a trick. » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:02 pm

On the day I think that the allied forces were getting frustrated with trying to enter the village via the bridges as I know it can be a hard slog.
It can be much easier under the cover of some smoke but I don't think there was much of that.
The Germans being the defenders will be arguing that the game for them was great as they love giving us a poke & then bugging out plus to defend is better than attacking
I think this game will be the downfall of some friendships If we all don't stop pointing the finger & throwing accusation & there won't be anymore high numbers attending any games because we will end up with groups of players objecting to playing with others.
I think everyone should just put this one to bed & put it down to lesson to be learnt for other organisers.
My hats off to Steve & Doc for making the effort to organising the game.
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Re: Thankyou

Postby rabbitspacker » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:40 am

Thanks for all your comments some positive some negative, sorry to those who did not enjoy the game, I did try to cover every aspect but I did not allow for so many cancellations especially the Heer, so the 4 of them decided to join the SS, which was fine but I was not aware of this until after the game started. I should have made the Brit Army aware of this, but keeping an eye on other area of the site I forgot, but the Brit CO did make a decision to join the Paras, thanks for taking that decision. The build up to the last big battle for the Town was intended to be difficult as in a real situation, the COs needed to get their men together and plan a organized attack over the 3 bridges after clearing the obstacles. The game was not about winning or loosing, sorry that those that lone wolfed did not read the event rules and take orders from their CO.
We were made aware that folks had hot guns at TIMS game, we supplied a chrono, but as in most WW games we relied on sportsmanship and trust.
Thanks again for all those that attended.
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Re: Thankyou

Postby Hänschen klein » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:43 am

philthy wrote:Gordon the reference about knowing certain people with hot guns can't be referring to any of our 44's that were measured high at the Tim battle and moaned about then , they weren't even working for this and battle and most of us were on MP40's and the 44 we did have was measured at 242fps at the Tim battle so who had hot ones??


Phil if you chrono your Stg and it was 242 FPS then all fine maybe not all are as honest as others. I am not directing critisism at anyone we just all need to play fair and don't get upset life's too short for that.

I think everything has been said so let's all forget it move on and learn by the comments made.
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Re: Thankyou

Postby jerry a trick. » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:49 am

Hänschen klein wrote:
philthy wrote:Gordon the reference about knowing certain people with hot guns can't be referring to any of our 44's that were measured high at the Tim battle and moaned about then , they weren't even working for this and battle and most of us were on MP40's and the 44 we did have was measured at 242fps at the Tim battle so who had hot ones??


Phil if you chrono your Stg and it was 242 FPS then all fine maybe not all are as honest as others. I am not directing critisism at anyone we just all need to play fair and don't get upset life's too short for that.

I think everything has been said so let's all forget it move on and learn by the comments made.

I second that!! :good:
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Re: Thankyou

Postby philthy » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:55 am

NO ifs at all !! , it was chrono check at 242fps
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Re: Thankyou

Postby sly » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:06 am

Hänschen klein wrote:I have watched with interest the comments made and as long as they are constructive that's fine.
Couple of things. Hot guns. From the various comments made by the allies it would suggest there were some hot guns on the German side! From experience we don't usually chrono WW 2 games as we generally all play fair but I do know that certain people have Hot Guns most likely Stg 44 which the obviously don't want to downgrade. All I can say is if you come to one of the SAD games you will be chrono and without exception you will be turned away.

Ok the game put on was an introductory game to be all inclusive £20 if you want strict orders and other tasks more associated with more niche games vote with your feet as you have the right to do but if it is targeted at a more introductory style then that's what you have signed upto.

I was in charge of the FJ and we did not find a problem all day. I went round followed the orders written down and we all had a throughly good time. We were looking for our opposition on a number of occasions who didn't seem to appear. Fog of war maybe they didn't follow their orders? If you were frustrated by things like hot guns or blind firing I am sure you brought it to the attention of the organisers at the time to nip it in the bud. Yes or No?

All I would say is that it is hard work putting on games . Battle for TIM took 6 months from start to finish. The community would love to have other people organising games and it would appear that some of you think that you may be able to do it better so we would all like to support you when you put on your first game.

Guys lets get behind games it's so easy for people to bitch afterwards if it doesn't live upto their expectations or their will be less and less games and all that kit you bought will go to waste.

Thanks for your attention :giggle:


as I said I didn't have an experience of hot guns I was passing on what I heard from quite a few of the allied players who hadn't mentioned it themselves.

yes it was inclusive which is why I was happy to go to it, but for all intents and purposes it was a scripted battle with timings and locations which wasn't happening. I tried to get my lot prepped and briefed and to the location for the scrap but it was futile. as for blind firing at the time I had no idea where the organisers were, I was also trying to organise my section, my suggestion of radios to get in contact would alleviate this and the organisational issues or even just a phone number so we can just ring each other. no one said they thought they could do it better, they pointed out what went wrong and in my case tried to suggest a fix for the next time. Also I thought it was worthwhile letting people know what the real experience was rather than a sugar coated version so the same issues would carry forward. I also mentioned that I understood the effort involved and thanked the orgainsers for it.
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Re: Thankyou

Postby Pops » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:08 pm

Thanks all involved with Saturdays game. Certainly more fun than the last one I went to a couple of weeks ago. Even with the suspicious end.
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Re: Thankyou

Postby breadfish » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:25 pm

Somewhat a late reply. But thank you for putting on a good game. And putting us up for both evenings.
The vehicle presence was brilliant and I hope more vehicles can make an appearance in the future.

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Re: Thankyou

Postby Westy » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:29 am

First ww2 event, will be back for more.

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