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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby Hurrah » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:59 pm

I am suprised at how few people turned up at sealion in Civis.

Considering the core of my workmans overalls get up possibly cost about £50 (not counting boots and gun)and came from high street sources. While not re-enactor standard, this isn't re-enactment :whistle:

Resistance (French or other) either all civis or civis with millitary stuff mixed in is cheap and easier to do than a full load out and great for a starter.

To the tune of "Mademoiselle from Armentières"

Napoleons army ran away, As you do
The guard stood firm for Frances Pride, As you do
They said the guard will stand and die
But we heard what their Colonel cried
It wasn't pretty I tell you.


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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby scaleyback » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:48 pm

i think you need to be carefull,,,,, this is fast heading towards SISK territory.
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby fremsley » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:06 pm

Wot's a SISK again?
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby BedsnHerts » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:23 pm

SISK = Skirmish In Silly Kit. Sometimes applied to WW2 themed games which have no basis in actual events and allow Brit, German, Russian, Yank, Uncle Tom Cobbley 'n' all. It's the flipside to the benefits of running an "inclusive" game.

The biggest problem with a SCW game is that it requires people to get more kit together, whereas this kind of VBCW game is specifically designed to let people wear what they bought for Op Sealion.

Personally I rate a solid game plan, well thought-out objectives and a good group of players to be far more important than historical accuracy.
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby scaleyback » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:11 pm

one of the biggest parts for me, is the oft quoted " in the zone"... i cant really get in the zone without a bit of uniformity. immersion is the thing. and that spell is broken for me by someone dressed like albert steptoe toteing a L96. for me , thats just not WW2. sorry.
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby BedsnHerts » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:41 pm

scaleyback wrote:immersion is the thing. and that spell is broken for me by someone dressed like albert steptoe toteing a L96. for me , thats just not WW2. sorry.


:giggle:

The L96 would bother me. Albert Steptoe not so much.

There's no reason why you can't have uniformity, accurate impressions and attention to detail in a fantasy scenario. The grim truth is that the "purist" flavour of WW2 airsoft only seems to have a core player base of about 60 people across all of England & Wales. Op Sealion showed that lots of open day players were receptive to the idea of a WW2 scenario. Inclusive games are a good way to get new people bitten by the bug - and this hobby NEEDS new people.
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby Sgt.Heide » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:56 pm

Yep, everyone knows that Albert Steptoe fought in the FIRST World War! That would ruin everything for me and, force me to commit suicide due to the trauma. :giggle:
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby Gadge » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:11 pm

Sgt.Heide wrote:Yep, everyone knows that Albert Steptoe fought in the FIRST World War! That would ruin everything for me and, force me to commit suicide due to the trauma. :giggle:



heheh, nice one :)
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby thompy1993 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:17 am

Sorry guys i'm about to have a moan.
Did anyone watch the new ITV drama 'Joe Maddison's War'?
As an airsofter and re-enactor of Home Guard i was quite shocked.
They repeated the mistakes made by Dad's army by using Binouclar cases instead of the real BAR pouches.
The were wearing Battledress.
The all had SMLE's in 1940. (They would have been given back to the real army after Dunkirk
And well they didn't ahve any gaiters!
No young volunteers as well!
Anyway thats the moan out the way.
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby stof » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:31 pm

Battledress isn't necessarily wrong ,I have a photo of my grandfather taken in 1940 and he is wearing 37 pattern or rather Battledress Serge,in the Aberdeen Home Guard.as for gaiters "Joe Maddison" appeared to be wearing black leather ones,which could be right ,certainly some units in London and Devon wore black ones.
But granted the bino cases were definately wrong,they appeared to be wearing a mix of 37 pattern webbing belts and 39 pattern leather ones too,and if you want to be really picky the shoulder straps should have been one piece ones,but at least they were SMLE's and not No.4's( and by the way I fixed the one you borrowed - it was a broken bb jamming the action)
I enjoyed it anyway even if some of the kit was a bit questionable.
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby Gadge » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:39 pm

This is my grandads homeguard unit. Note they are pretty well equipped.


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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby Hurrah » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:41 pm

thompy1993 wrote:Sorry guys i'm about to have a moan.
Did anyone watch the new ITV drama 'Joe Maddison's War'?
As an airsofter and re-enactor of Home Guard i was quite shocked.
They repeated the mistakes made by Dad's army by using Binouclar cases instead of the real BAR pouches.
The were wearing Battledress.
The all had SMLE's in 1940. (They would have been given back to the real army after Dunkirk
And well they didn't ahve any gaiters!
No young volunteers as well!
Anyway thats the moan out the way.


So, what you are saying is that just like most of the statues of Lenin have more resemblance to the actor who played him in the Eisenstein movies, so today any portrayal of the Home Guard winds up looking like dads army (flaws and all).

To the tune of "Mademoiselle from Armentières"

Napoleons army ran away, As you do
The guard stood firm for Frances Pride, As you do
They said the guard will stand and die
But we heard what their Colonel cried
It wasn't pretty I tell you.


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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby CHThree » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:15 am

And William Wallace's statue looks like Mel Gibson. :rofl:

In the end it's not important though if a programme about the HG gets a few details wrong. I know it's grating for those in the know, but it's entertainment and first and foremost it needs to be a decent drama. Was it? I recorded it, should i just delete it?
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby thompy1993 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:53 am

In all it wasn't to bad.
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Re: Home Guard Group?

Postby Steiner » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:11 pm

I didn't bother watching because Kevin boring Whateley was in it! :P
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