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Soviet leather

Postby Lord Elpus » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:33 pm

Okay guys, brown leather belt, about inch and a half wide, single prong roller buckle? For the Soviet kit.
I've got this in hand if that's correct.
Shame though, just picked up a Polish officer belt, black, same width, double prong buckle, sewn in pattern similar to Sam Browne style, bought to support my competition pistols. Would have been nice to get "dual" purpose from it.
What about shoulder "Y" straps? Easy to copy? Can't find any good photo's at the moment to see detail. I'm not bad at a bit of leatherwork, so if they are not too complicated and fittings can be copied I would like to make some.
I was going to buy a holster for the Tokarev anyway regardless of this uniform ensemble, so some advice on colour and material would be good. Most I've found are black leather.
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Lord Elpus » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:53 pm

So I just read that "Y" straps are canvas, most photo's I've looked at, seemed to look like leather, did say couldn't see the detail. So unless I can find the right ones I won't bother.
What about the rain cape? Easy to find? Not sure if I like them, but they do look the part.
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Lord Elpus » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:58 pm

Did they have canvas holsters got the Tokarev? Similar to the British ones. I seem to remember a photo of a Soviet soldier with a canvas pistol holster, somewhere in a book I think, but I could be mistaken, might have been for another use.
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby BootedFeet » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:31 am

The belt you have sounds about right , Soviet leather belts were always brown, as were the rifle pouches. Y-straps were canvas, however after the catastrophic losses of 1941 they almost completely disappeared, so no Y-straps is actually the more accurate option.
Pistol holsters to the best of my knowledge were brown leather, same as the nagant holsters, with the fake leather 'kizra' holsters being a post war thing.
The rain cape 'plash palatka' is easy enough to find, if it particular interests you the model with leather grommits is the WW2 model, but if you're just looking to have one worn over your shoulder then nobody will see these anyway, a trawl through ebay will yield both types.
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Lord Elpus » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:44 am

I'm making the belt, got all the ingredients anyway, thanks for info on the rest. I'm really just searching about for what's what, a holster is a must, and maybe a water bottle, I will just concentrate on the basic uniform first, if it comes together quick or takes time, no real hurry.
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Lord Elpus » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:35 am

No work for me today, so a bit of time to order some uniform bits, whilst out walking the dog, a thought came to me, (which is quite a suprise, I'm not normally a thoughtful person) in The Soviet contingency we have here, who is the commissar? Any objections to wearing the blue trousers and commissar cap? Thought that might bring a bit of realism.
If not tell me And I won't pursue it any further. I will in the meantime search for the commissar ensemble.
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Stumpy0903 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:22 am

Just saw the title of this thread, thought it was some weird fetish thread :D :happydance:
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Lord Elpus » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:25 am

I'm saving that get up for the actual day! Soviet gimp suit will make the enemy run!
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Mattywheels » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:16 pm

For Rattenkrieg, the commissars will be the organisers, so if you could look to go in normal Russian enlisted kit please :good:
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Lord Elpus » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:19 pm

No problem, sent off for tunic today, should resemble a decrepit old Soviet soldier by the end of the week!
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby MartinR » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:48 pm

Russian kit can really be very minimal. Belt and gas mask bag is plenty. I certainly don't bother with a pistol.

The plash palatka is a good bit of kit, most waterproof rain cape I've come across (god knows what they impregnate them with), I just use a post war one rolled up, but probably not much call for one down in the tunnels at Rattenkreig. I also use a postwar water bottle, easily available an d very similar to the wartime ones (you could always strip the paint if you are really keen).

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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Lord Elpus » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:55 pm

I think I did have a German water bottle somewhere, can't find it at the moment, found a DDR one, 3 USA style ones , and an eighties Brit one, but ain't that always the way! Can never find what you want only what you don't want! I have a fair bit of time to sort the right one.
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Lord Elpus » Wed Sep 21, 2016 3:01 pm

As for the Tokarev pistol, it's NEW! So I would like to christen it, if I can't find the right holster I won't bother. I know the normal soldier wouldn't have a pistol, but I like to carry a back up.
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Re: Soviet leather

Postby Lord Elpus » Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:16 pm

Holster arrived today, brown leather, new looking, straight in the water, a good beating, pistol wrapped in plastic now shaped, and looking older, stretched the mag holder with slightly oversized mag shaped piece of wood, and now chucked in the corner to dry.
Even found an old leather ammo pouch, must have had this knocking around for 10 year or so, takes tokarev spare mag nicely.
Waiting on gas mask bag, and a pair of breeches........

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