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Custom MG42 - The need for MG's

Postby Sgt.Heide » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:37 am

Since AEG versions of WW2 German mg's are extremely rare and ridiculously expensive, I've decided and you'll probably think I'm bonkers, to order a cushman MG34 or MG42. Even if I only end up using them for measurements for a metal one or as a base to put metal parts over, it's better than nothing and I can't justify buying a de-ac in this case just to use it for measurements. The lack of MG's is what's stopping us from employing real German tactics, as the squad worked around the machine gun.

I know the cushmans are crap but I've seen what the guy on the US forum has done with a cushman BAR and it's got my creative juices flowing. My PPSH is all but done, so I'm going to give it a go. Wish me luck! :rofl:
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Pete_59 » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:47 am

Rather than a sh*te cushman why not get a full metal mg34/42 from here http://www.zib-militaria.de/epages/6143 ... ID=4200774, £295 for a mg34 £370 for a mg42 ok not as cheap as a cushman but a lot more realistic and possibly convertable :?
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Old Un » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:51 am

Pete_59 wrote:Rather than a sh*te cushman why not get a full metal mg34/42 from here http://www.zib-militaria.de/epages/6143 ... ID=4200774, £295 for a mg34 £370 for a mg42 ok not as cheap as a cushman but a lot more realistic and possibly convertable :?


The problem with ZIBs replicas is that they are full solid metal . I know at least one person has had a look at them ...a feck lot of machining and the barrel would also have to be scratch built as it's solid to the reciever. Could be good to measure up from, but as a base to build an AEG I think there are easier ways . You could always use it for resin moulds of course.
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Pete_59 » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:55 am

This is the description of the MG42;

German MG42 from WWII. 1:1 Reproduction made from metal/wood with moving part.

Detailed like the original, 24 lbs weight, Bipod is original MG, Trigger is moveable and barrel can be removed from frame.

Suggests that it's at least partially stripable.
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Boshman » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:33 pm

You sure like a challenge Pete! :lol:

Have you given any though to what gearbox you would use? I used to have a Shoei MG42 and thought about converting it to aeg on many ocassions. In the end I bottled out of destroying a grands worth of gun! The MG42 is tricky as the reciever is just not tall enough to take any of the usual suspects. I concluded that the best bet would be a to use a G36 or AK47 gearbox (the G36 is slightly preferable as it has a smaller motor frame) and then fabricate a new pistol grip to go around it. the angle of the AK motor is not exactly the same as the orignial 42 grip but is is close enough.

Best of luck mate, look forward to seeing this one progress.
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Lardassmonkey » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:05 pm

I'll be interested in seeing those pics when you get them if you don't mind Heide. I've had an MG34 project planned for a while now but never knew about these ZIB replicas. If they're convertable I might be able to get things off the ground.
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Sgt.Heide » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:34 pm

Lardassmonkey wrote:I'll be interested in seeing those pics when you get them if you don't mind Heide. I've had an MG34 project planned for a while now but never knew about these ZIB replicas. If they're convertable I might be able to get things off the ground.


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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Hstuf. Vorwärts » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:58 pm

Hello Guys, here is me again, sorry to enter this thraed too, but, Heiko (the owner of ZIB) is my businesspartner since a while, the MG 34 is from Sturm, this one is full metall, I have one here in my house, I also have 2 of those MG42, they are good, they are NOT full metall, they are very good for us, because a lot of space to put a Gearbox in etc., I have one buyed to convert it in to a GAS firing one, for Reenactment and one I will construct with Oscha into a Airsoftone, it is realy good made, comes with a lot small nice things and I can try to press down the price for you guys. I will try a.s.a.p. to post Fotos of it. But it is a cheap and perfect weaponreplica to bulid a Airsoftweapon. But forgett the MG34, it is aluminium full struck, forgett it. AND SOME SECRET: I know, that Heiko haves still 2 plastic bodies of a MG34 and a MG42 in his stock, they are only bodies nothing inside etc, right size, right space, just for your info..... 8)
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Sgt.Heide » Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:04 pm

That's great news Peter, I'll have to save up for the MG42 now! I could have started something here!

At some point this year, I'm going to clear my garage out properly and install some work surfaces, so I can have a few guns on the go at once. I'll invest in some more heavy duty tools while I'm at it as well!
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Kermit » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:30 pm

I bought one of the full-metal repro MG34's in last year with a view to digging it out and dropping an AEG gearbox into it. Could it be done? Yes - but VERY close run thing. I'm lucky, with the Senior and the Colchester, I could do it - but I don't want to even *think* how long the machining would have taken, so I canned the idea and flogged it on.

Regarding the full-metal repro MG42's the gearbox is going to have to be a version 3. The receiver simply isn't tall enough for a Version 6 or one of the M249 'boxes. The bonus of having a "regular" gearbox inside it will be that there is enough space to fit the battery behind it in the receiver if you go to LiPo packs - unlike the way Ultima do it.
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby OScha » Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:45 pm

So here are some pics from HStufs MG42:

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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Lardassmonkey » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:15 pm

Yes thanks for the pics. It looks like theres the space for a gearbox but the join between the barrel & receiver looks problematic.
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Sgt.Heide » Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:52 pm

It's nothing that can't be sorted out without a plate and a MIG welder. Looks like a 2kg weight bar spot welded inside the receiver as well - nothing an angle grinder can't take care of.
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Hstuf. Vorwärts » Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:45 pm

It haves the f..... real weight now, but it is cool at all. It can be fixed on every bipod or lafettes for the MG42, all fits. realy perfect and if you put a deco ammo in it, great. So if somebody wants it, let me know, I dont know what is Heikos Preis officialy. may I can save a few bucks for you, because the shipping will not be cheap too. I can get them from him, thrue PayPal we could handle this, only we must include the fees and I send instandly the cash forward to him, so we have to work it out, if it will be hot case... I am here and will do my best to help you with this.
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Re: The need for MG's

Postby Sgt.Heide » Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:10 pm

I've been getting the parts (gearbox, etc) ready for the conversion and plan to order a Zib MG42 within the next 2 weeks. So, no need to send yours Peter, although it's a very generous offer! If I'm REALLY lucky, it may be ready for the Bryansk game in May.
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