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Im having lots of problems finding JG trousers for a Burma reenactment.
The problems are size as im a 36 waist and the fit.
I have recently seen some photo's of 1960 Pattern Combat trouser (British).

The pockets look to be in the same place as the 1940's trousers.

Question.
Has anyone got 1940 pattern and these 1960 pattern JG trousers?
If so will they be passable for a reenactment or compare well?

All help and advice welcomed.

Regards Bob.

 
Posted : 30/05/2014 4:15 pm
Russe11
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WPG have them in khaki
http://www.whatpriceglory.com/shopexd.asp?id=1325&bc=no
You would just have to dye them.

 
Posted : 30/05/2014 4:49 pm
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WPG have them in khaki
http://www.whatpriceglory.com/shopexd.asp?id=1325&bc=no
You would just have to dye them.

Thanks for the reply

As I said the fit is what I hate about them.
I wont be ordering from WPG anyway.

 
Posted : 30/05/2014 6:14 pm
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http://www.thehistorybunker.co.uk/
UK site that makes Soldier of fortune look cheap but they might be able to make what you want to measure? Unfortunately JG stuff is hard to find. If the 1960 JG trousers are these ones: http://www.britishmilitarysurplus.co.uk ... 22242.html Then no, they are not baggy enough. The 1950 version would be okayish but the waist is different as they did a weird cross over integrated belt to allow maximum adjustment as you lose weight fast in jungle conditions.

 
Posted : 31/05/2014 2:49 pm
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http://www.thehistorybunker.co.uk/
UK site that makes Soldier of fortune look cheap but they might be able to make what you want to measure? Unfortunately JG stuff is hard to find. If the 1960 JG trousers are these ones: http://www.britishmilitarysurplus.co.uk ... 22242.html Then no, they are not baggy enough. The 1950 version would be okayish but the waist is different as they did a weird cross over integrated belt to allow maximum adjustment as you lose weight fast in jungle conditions.

Thanks for the reply.
These are the one's im talking about.
http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/1960-green ... oduct,4081
As you see the pockets are the same. Forum sites say they are quite baggy!

I dont think I have much of an option really.
What's so irritating is they still remain the forgotten army, still today. I have a better chance dressing as an SS Officer.
PS I wouldnt go near the History Bunker. Been there and its pathetic!

 
Posted : 31/05/2014 9:23 pm
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Not sure the waist is right, the pockets look correct so you should be able to get away with it.

what about KD trousers?
http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/kd-trousers-product,7759
Dyed green they would be correct for an early far east impression.

or denim battledress trousers?
http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/denim-bd-t ... oduct,6390
SOF denim battledress is even already green.

I personally intend to get some of these at some point for an Aussie jungle impression:
http://www.epicmilitaria.com/product.ph ... t-trousers
They were apparently the best option for protection from jungle vegetation, leeches and insects. Unfortunately the British weren't as adept at nicking US gear :D

 
Posted : 01/06/2014 7:28 am
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Not sure the waist is right, the pockets look correct so you should be able to get away with it.

what about KD trousers?
http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/kd-trousers-product,7759
Dyed green they would be correct for an early far east impression.

or denim battledress trousers?
http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/denim-bd-t ... oduct,6390
SOF denim battledress is even already green.

I personally intend to get some of these at some point for an Aussie jungle impression:
http://www.epicmilitaria.com/product.ph ... t-trousers
They were apparently the best option for protection from jungle vegetation, leeches and insects. Unfortunately the British weren't as adept at nicking US gear :D

Ive now bought some 1960 P trousers, so ill let you know how I get on.

 
Posted : 01/06/2014 1:10 pm
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Thanks for the reply.
These are the one's im talking about.
http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/1960-green ... oduct,4081
As you see the pockets are the same. Forum sites say they are quite baggy!

These are just '60s era combat trousers - they are lined and so are quite thick and heavy!
Passable for airsoft? Yes. Passable for reenactment? No.
What about the fit of them are you having trouble with? I usually take to wearing 36" waist trousers as I can get into "34 waist items okay but around my cycling thighs it's far to tight, so I just go a size up to get some baggyness and use the adjustment and/or belt to keep them tight around the waist.

A Proud Member Of 'Team Spleen!' who play mainly at Gunman Airsoft, Tuddenham, Suffolk.

 
Posted : 02/06/2014 12:51 am
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You are right JG trousers are a problem. As issued items were often destroyed and the Malayan emergency consumed stocks there are not a lot around in wearable sizes.
For replica ones as a group we went to India and had ones made. This is not a route I suggest as we had issues with getting goods and even then they needed alterations when they arrived.
The WPG/SOF KD are close in pattern to those worn though the buttons and fittings are too brightly plated. They will dye but the modern stitching will not and that results in an odd look.
JG was in fairly short supply until late in the war so troops out of forward areas would often be wearing KD, so depending on the unit this is a possiblilty. Again if you are looking at the 1942 campaign in Burma JG was not yet available.

The 60 pattern are just a completely different item and would not do as an alternative if you are trying for an accurate re-creation.

I see you are in Sheffield, you could try contacting Yith on this forum for some local and very knowledgeable advice on uniform and equipment for units in India and Burma.



 
Posted : 02/06/2014 12:59 pm
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You are right JG trousers are a problem. As issued items were often destroyed and the Malayan emergency consumed stocks there are not a lot around in wearable sizes.
For replica ones as a group we went to India and had ones made. This is not a route I suggest as we had issues with getting goods and even then they needed alterations when they arrived.
The WPG/SOF KD are close in pattern to those worn though the buttons and fittings are too brightly plated. They will dye but the modern stitching will not and that results in an odd look.
JG was in fairly short supply until late in the war so troops out of forward areas would often be wearing KD, so depending on the unit this is a possiblilty. Again if you are looking at the 1942 campaign in Burma JG was not yet available.

The 60 pattern are just a completely different item and would not do as an alternative if you are trying for an accurate re-creation.

I see you are in Sheffield, you could try contacting Yith on this forum for some local and very knowledgeable advice on uniform and equipment for units in India and Burma.

Thanks for the reply.
The 1960 pattern trousers I have will do in the meantime.
Ive been looking for an original JG Trousers for over a year now, so I know they are hard to find.
I will contact Yith and thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
The rest of the uniform is sorted!
The rest is more easy as its not so set in concrete. Im reenacting a SOE Force 136 in Burma.
Its Boots, puttee's, Trousers (The Problem), Brown wool shirt, Slouch hat.
Then full P37 web with Binoculars web case & Binoc's, Machete & issue sheath.
Its all come together well.
Just add trousers and stir!!!

 
Posted : 02/06/2014 4:12 pm
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