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Gadge
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Well the obvious one would be one on panzer troops wouldnt it

again, lets try google..

*wait on minute*

http://www.ospreypublishing.com/title_d ... itle=S3284

there you go.




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Posted : 11/07/2007 1:37 pm
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Well the obvious one would be one on panzer troops wouldnt it

again, lets try google..

*wait on minute*

http://www.ospreypublishing.com/title_d ... itle=S3284

there you go.

Cheers Gadge i think i will start to 'look' on the internet now lol

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Posted : 11/07/2007 1:38 pm
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yep that was simply a search for 'osprey panzer'




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Posted : 11/07/2007 1:40 pm
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yep that was simply a search for 'osprey panzer'

Sorry

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Posted : 11/07/2007 1:44 pm
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No its ok relaly the point of these forums is to get advice, the point im trying to make though is that you could probably get a more knowledgeable adn concrete answer using google or wiki in the time it takes to ask on here.

All i've done is put the keywords of your questions into googel and got the answer in seconds.

Just trying to help you develop your researching skills, you're going to need them if you get into wwii stuff.

Especially before you buy stuff to make sure you get the right things and dont get ripped off yeah?

Plus its fun to research once you get into it.

I reckno if yo read the entire atthefront website, acthung panzer.com and that digger history one today you'll know shedloads more than most folk abut the panzer arm.... AND .. be really well equipped to make your next purchase.

I'm in a sarcy mood Lewis, please dont let me stop you asking questions just try and get into the research side of the hobby, its worth it honest.

G




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Posted : 11/07/2007 2:01 pm
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lewis, mine and pauls have no pink pipeing on the colar

it didnt have it on, and ive not been arsed to sew it on

after 1943 the pink pipeing was discontinued on the collars, but it was left on the deathsheads

so before 1943 , sew on pink collar after 1943 dont have it.

look at this picture some have collar pipeing some dont

i was sewing mine on , but when i saw the article on post `43 , i didnt bother its on the landser website

http://www.deutschesoldaten.com/

look under black afv jacket

it tells you all you need to know

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Posted : 11/07/2007 2:10 pm
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No its ok relaly the point of these forums is to get advice, the point im trying to make though is that you could probably get a more knowledgeable adn concrete answer using google or wiki in the time it takes to ask on here.

All i've done is put the keywords of your questions into googel and got the answer in seconds.

Just trying to help you develop your researching skills, you're going to need them if you get into wwii stuff.

Especially before you buy stuff to make sure you get the right things and dont get ripped off yeah?

Plus its fun to research once you get into it.

I reckno if yo read the entire atthefront website, acthung panzer.com and that digger history one today you'll know shedloads more than most folk abut the panzer arm.... AND .. be really well equipped to make your next purchase.

I'm in a sarcy mood Lewis, please dont let me stop you asking questions just try and get into the research side of the hobby, its worth it honest.

G

Ok Gadge i will now look at all those recomended websites

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Posted : 11/07/2007 2:11 pm
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lewis, mine and pauls have no pink pipeing on the colar

it didnt have it on, and ive not been arsed to sew it on

after 1943 the pink pipeing was discontinued on the collars, but it was left on the deathsheads

so before 1943 , sew on pink collar after 1943 dont have it.

i was sewing mine on , but when i saw the article on post `43 , i didnt bother its on the landser website

http://www.deutschesoldaten.com/

look under black afv jacket

it tells you all you need to know

Ok,but i think my collars are longer than yours,looks like a AG wrap but black if you no what i mean.

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Posted : 11/07/2007 2:13 pm
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just noticed, yours is cut diagonallly on the front breast wrapover.
mine and pauls are cut vertical

we have late war issue, yours is the EARLY version.

full pipeing, daigonal cut

ours are late issue, vertical cut, and no pipeing, (easier to produce)

so yes, yours is still a good jacket :wink:

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Posted : 11/07/2007 7:39 pm
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just noticed, yours is cut diagonallly on the front breast wrapover.
mine and pauls are cut vertical

we have late war issue, yours is the EARLY version.

full pipeing, daigonal cut

ours are late issue, vertical cut, and no pipeing, (easier to produce)

so yes, yours is still a good jacket :wink:

Yeah mine is daigonal its comfy aswell but its bleedin hot! i will be purchasing a hat,do i get a ski one or just a normal one?

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Posted : 11/07/2007 7:47 pm
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You have four choices.

ones not that realistic as an option.

1) earry war panzer crash beret
2) schiff side cap in black
3) M43 cap in black
4) Steel helmet




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Posted : 11/07/2007 7:53 pm
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You have four choices.

ones not that realistic as an option.

1) earry war panzer crash beret
2) schiff side cap in black
3) M43 cap in black
4) Steel helmet

Ill go for the M43 cap,maybe get the side cap later,should i get a Heer Trapzoid on it???

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Posted : 11/07/2007 8:03 pm
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Have a look on them sites, im not sure but i bet they wil show you.




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Posted : 11/07/2007 8:19 pm
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Have a look on them sites, im not sure but i bet they wil show you.

I have just purchased off Militaria.net a m43 black cap with Panzer bevo trapzoid and a Panzer chest eagle.

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Posted : 11/07/2007 8:36 pm
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my m 43 cap has got the ss skull and eagle bevo,

i "should" change it, but i never get round to it,

only sid has ever noticed

:roll:

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Posted : 12/07/2007 7:47 am
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its possible if you're doing late war, poor equipment stocks meant troops got whatever was in the depot.

Ahats a hat if you're being carpet bombed....




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Posted : 12/07/2007 9:29 am
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Whilst brousing militaria.net i came across this look at the Panzer wraps.
http://militaria-net.co.uk/oscommerce/c ... Path/44_53

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Posted : 12/07/2007 9:42 am
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my m 43 cap has got the ss skull and eagle bevo,

i "should" change it, but i never get round to it,

only sid has ever noticed

:roll:

I also noticed that It wasnt in keeping with the Sven hassle look, but kept that too myself, as the impression is a great laugh, and I think being a stitch nazi would rip it too pieces, and that would take all the fun out of it.


 
Posted : 12/07/2007 3:39 pm
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its possible if you're doing late war, poor equipment stocks meant troops got whatever was in the depot.

Ahats a hat if you're being carpet bombed....

Good point re late war availability. I have a photo of an SS PG officer in 1944/45 wearing an officer's ski cap with an army pattern eagle on the front and a Deaths Head pinned or sewn underneath - I've reproduced it 'as is' for my impression of him. Non-regulation uniform combinations etc. doesn't necessarily make it 'wrong' historically.

http://www.simplysoldiers.blogspot.com/

 
Posted : 13/07/2007 12:37 pm
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Thats right.

You occasionally see weird stuff like ive a photo of a gunner on a 25pdr with a US combat knife on his belt.

However its good practice in re-enactment (should any of you want to go that far) to go for the 'lowest common denominator' impression of the average squaddie in issue kit.

E.g. their is photo of a guy at Arnhem with 1st airborne carrying and using an m1 carbine, these were never on the books but if everybody chose to take that one photo as proof it was done and re-enact it you'd end up with a totally false impression in the eyes of th epublic as to the airborne soldier.

A lot of groups allow about 1 man in ten to carry a non standard or captured item.

Bu for our games, nobody will care that much.




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Posted : 13/07/2007 12:52 pm
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