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Over on the reenacting forum theyre having a real slanging fest over the question is repro webbing acceptable and its getting so heated most of the threads have been shut :shock: :shock: :shock:

Whilst things like original pistol belts,canteen sets,e tools etc can be bought cheaper then NEW repros not everyone can afford the approx £50 price tag for things like original musettes,bar or garand belts(one guy of course on the other forum is lucky enough to have "boxes full of original webbing").

Question i have is and think it would be helpful to all is what have you found in your own experiences are the good and bad of repro webbing-maker/supplier wise,overall look of the stuff and more importantly durability of the stuff.

I would much rather see repro(even if crap)webbing getting trashed and not original stuff :( :(

 
Posted : 21/11/2008 9:23 am
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Good question :good:
For me I have a mix of repro and real gear, the two US loadouts I have are all infact repro ( Ive had no problem with them) and my Brit gear is a mixture of repro and real
I guess it depends on each person, but for me repro is good enough
Paul


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Posted : 21/11/2008 9:34 am
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Good question :good:
For me I have a mix of repro and real gear, the two US loadouts I have are all infact repro ( Ive had no problem with them) and my Brit gear is a mixture of repro and real
I guess it depends on each person, but for me repro is good enough
Paul

Paul what im trying to find out is if the webbing is in fact any good can you please post comments of where you bought your stuff from(if you know the maker/supplier) and your verdict compared to the look of original stuff.

Thanks

 
Posted : 21/11/2008 9:40 am
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All of my webbing is original and extremely hard wearing.

I've looked at other sets that people have bought, and at militaria fair and it's of such a low quality material that it just doesn't stand up to even the mildest scrutiny.

It's often very thin, and strangely quite soft, as if it's made from cotton with no reinforcement. I've seen pistol belts that sag inbetween the suspender clips because they aren't sturdy enough to carry the weight of the hung equipment. That's not right! The metal fixings are often cheap casts, monkey metal, rather than the brass that the original fitting were forged from, so the often break very easily.

Also the colours vary wildly. I know that colours varied between manufacturers of original stuff, but some of it ranges from almost orange (WTF?) to a pea-green.

Leather goods aren't much better either. The leather is often thin and very soft. Holsters should be hard and not very pliable. The leathers are painted in a strange orange coating rather than stained too. (Again, WTF?) I even bought a scabbard for my trench knife that is too small to fit the knife in. (WTF? Double WTF? Round the car park and back in for another WTF?!)

I've not seen any webbing from ATF or WPG, only Dutch and UK retailers. My jump-suit is WPG I think, and is extremely hard wearing and made of such superior material to the other, cheaper, jump suits I've seen. Even at Churchill's Revenge, where it rained all day, my torso stayed dry.

From experience, one is far better served paying a little extra cash for original stuff, or hunting high and low and getting it cheap like I did, that going for cheaper repro. The old adage 'buy cheap, buy twice' rings true.

My 2p.....

HS



 
Posted : 21/11/2008 10:35 am
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Good question :good:
For me I have a mix of repro and real gear, the two US loadouts I have are all infact repro ( Ive had no problem with them) and my Brit gear is a mixture of repro and real
I guess it depends on each person, but for me repro is good enough
Paul

Paul what im trying to find out is if the webbing is in fact any good can you please post comments of where you bought your stuff from(if you know the maker/supplier) and your verdict compared to the look of original stuff.

Thanks

okay sorry
my web gear for my US rigs are repro from SOF and I have not had any problems with it at all, my brit webbing is real
P


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Posted : 21/11/2008 12:01 pm
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(Talking US kit)

My water canteen cover is so far the only bit of repro that I have had problems with, as it started to tear on the mounting point. That said, I have it full, and it could have got caught on something. I think however that the metal components of the repro aren't as good as the metal on the originals.

A reasonablly priced real-deal set of webbing is the lend-lease stuff that is coming back from Russia. I picked up a pistol belt and Thompson mag pouch for £30 at a show - which is the same price as the Sof pouch...

I also got a 1950 BAR belt for a tenner.

I haven`t noticed much difference myself in the colour - after a few skirmishes they match, but the repro is definately less robust....given that, so (often) is 60 year old original stuff........and the original is likely to escalate in price, but not the repro.

Swings and roundabouts I guess.

 
Posted : 22/11/2008 5:30 am
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I know webby had a couple of repro belts break at the buckle as the metal was too brittle.

I've not worn us WWII webbing for over ten years but I remember springfields in burton had a lot of the late war green webbing quite cheap at one point.

Not sure if FNG supplies are still in business but they had original us webbing too.




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Posted : 24/11/2008 11:17 am
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I think the issue is a little skew; it's not whether the repro stuff is shite, it's just that it is not as good a quality as the originals. These can be found for cheaper if you have a root around the internet rather than just going straight to Cost A Fortune and scrolling down their list of gear. Fair enough SOF may be a starting point to get an idea of what you're looking for, however I've got a few items from Holland, a few from private sellers in Britain, a couple from America and one from Russia...
A lot of people may have repros that they've never had any problem with but they may be because you haven't jumped round like a maniac in it, snagged it on branches, rolled all over it avoiding fire or simply carried the best part of 12 stone of equipment around on it/in it.
I think the point is if you want to be lazy then get the repro stuff, it isn't as good quality because that is the way things are going maximum profit for minimum expenditure. If you want to make a little bit more effort then find originals, you can still get them in mint condition. You will be a lot happier in the long run...

RANT OVER.

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Posted : 25/11/2008 10:37 am
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Most of my webbing is repro with a few original items such as the musette bag, and poncho, E-tool spade and cover. I am very pleased with the webbing ive bought from SOF, its held up well for 8 months, with nothing breaking, My epic garand belt has had a few internal clips break but from the exterior it looks the part.

My plan is to get original webbing over time. I like the idea of original webbing as it i feel it brings me closer to history.

For a starter wishing to get into ww2 airsoft its a great place to start...cheapish, and will get you looking the part quickly. There's nothing wrong with it..

 
Posted : 07/12/2008 11:54 am
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I have a complete set of original webbing except the musette and have various bits of repro webbing.
To be honest the repro bits i have look good compared to my original stuff but ive only used them for display and not battled them so no idea how they would hold up.Also as ive bought them from various places,Ebay etc i have no idea who made them.

I have heard a lot about SOF orange webbing but never seen any so cannot realy comment.

 
Posted : 07/12/2008 1:14 pm
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