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Fatbear
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It's looking unlikely that I`ll get a WW2 airsoft in this year, as everything seems a good way north.

It would be great to see another southern event, like (for example) Operation Haggard at Ringwood last year.

 
Posted : 30/05/2009 2:20 pm
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There's always the Army group South game, at RAF Tuddenham, in Suffolk in october?

 
Posted : 30/05/2009 2:30 pm
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its nothing personal fatbear...... it just seems there are more available site up north.i know how you feel, when i was paintballing, all the comp sites were MK or south.

 
Posted : 30/05/2009 3:05 pm
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Most of the organisers are up north as well..

The trick is for someone "darn sarth" to organise some games!

 
Posted : 30/05/2009 4:18 pm
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Having recently joined the scene and having about 4 friends (Airsofters) who are ready to join (Some have purchased kit) we would relish a game down South. I saw from the board, games at Worthing and at Ground Zero and we would love to attend. Most of the games appear to be up North and even Suffolk is a trek around the M25!!! I hear what is said about organising a game but at the moment i ma not in a position to make that jump.

The Poll on where we all are shows a large percentage down South so come on somebody and arrange one for all of us to get a game in this year. It may even encourage some of my Ground Zero gang to make the jump!





 
Posted : 30/05/2009 4:33 pm
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............I`m looking at that avenue. 8)

 
Posted : 30/05/2009 4:34 pm
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Posted : 30/05/2009 4:39 pm
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I also noticed 2 games at the same site in 1 year ? twice they must be some realy good sites, its especialy hard for me to get to games only way is getting a lift and even then it would still cost me a fortune to get the train to a place i can get the lift from, just give us 1 weekender down south and il be happy til next year 8)

 
Posted : 30/05/2009 7:59 pm
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i cant speak for CIA, but with PBI the sites fit the terrain for the scenarios, trust me, trying to find time and petrol money ,green fees etc to view sites is not easy sounds fun, but its a real task. walking through a site has no relevence on how it plays, you have to skirmish it. it takes time and effort. trying to give the players a beliveable caan/oosterbeek/normandy farm land/norwegian pine steepe/ scicily etc etc etc isnt easy. what is easy is just to find a bit of mixed woodland and call it villas bocage, but it dont work like that. if it did we could play every game at F+O matlock and i could sleep at home every night . giving the people a game rather than just a blat in ww2 kit takes work.... i have argued for using a certain site many times as it fits many games but i have (quite rightly) been voted down because its not fair. imagine trying to pretend taffs welsh hills are the lowlands of holland...... we really do go all out to make it as close as we can.

 
Posted : 30/05/2009 9:12 pm
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Thats what I asumed, I said the sites must be good, as in they must realy fit the bill (I dont know I have not played them) but St Lo is at Grange farm so il se what that one is like, and from the photos of the Site Oosterbeek is at thet looks very similar to the woodland around Oosterbeek and Wolfheze.

 
Posted : 30/05/2009 9:26 pm
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Yup, unfortunately we can't get to every site around the country. The organisers for PBI all live in the Notts, Derbys, Yorks area... so that's where the games end up.

CiA have it much the same, but with one member down south.

It's going to be down to someone else to fly the flag for CiA/PBI games down south, sorry!

 
Posted : 30/05/2009 9:44 pm
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Also, bear in mind that we generally have to do multiple site visits, and prep the site prior to the game itself, which means that distance from us is also an issue as regards things like fuel costs etc.

 
Posted : 30/05/2009 9:49 pm
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Odd isn't really though that CiA games have mostly been darn sarf, I can't believe the July game is really in Yorkshire :shock: we've travelled to Wales and Portsmouth just to attend (maybes we're daft.... ok don't answer that :lol: ). Anyways looking forward to finally having a game on home turf 8)

As an aside from that, I was under the impression theres more WWII games down south, bar the PBI guys who so far to us have had their games south too being that we're in North Yorkshire, the others I've seen advertised have been miles away. I find the same with Re-enactment events, the few up here in gods own county are few and far between (likes of Renishaw not being on this year). Its even worse for those in Scotland :shock: that really is a trek and worse than you're finding it being in the deepest darkest corner of the south :lol:


 
Posted : 31/05/2009 9:38 am
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Thats what I asumed, I said the sites must be good, as in they must realy fit the bill (I dont know I have not played them) but St Lo is at Grange farm so il se what that one is like, and from the photos of the Site Oosterbeek is at thet looks very similar to the woodland around Oosterbeek and Wolfheze.

its fantastic for st-lo, high hedge banks, open fields, trees,,,,

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Posted : 31/05/2009 10:59 am
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There are games being planned for down south, having just done a six hour drive to a game I appreciate the effort many people make to attend a game. Haggard 2 is being planned for next year and Alsos will be at Tuddenham in October.
I may need some Axis players for an unofficial game at Worthing in September, I have a group of Free French Infantry and mixed partisans that need kicking into shape :twisted:
It's all very well stating that the site needs to fit the game but for games that may not come up to CiA/PBI standards, but still give everybody a chance to wear their loadout, skirmishing with like minded people, and have fun, are being planned more and more.
I know that there are fears that the WW2 airsoft calendar is filling up fast and some find it hard to plan a game that doesn't clash with anyone else's game. Unfortunatley I believe this may well become inevitable. I can see both sides of the coin, in that there may not yet be enough WW2 airsofters to fill all the events and clashing could be detremental to numbers, but I also firmly believe that there are many who look at a proposed game and think I cant afford or want to do a trip that far and write it off immediatley. This must work for the northeners as much as the southerners.
What I'm hoping is that when a game is announced, in either region that enough people support it to still maintain good gameplay.




 
Posted : 31/05/2009 9:34 pm
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there are plenty of games, CIA and PBI cant be all things to all men. if you want a ww2 game to be a ww2 game, not just a sisk then you have to have high standards . the high standards include having sites that tick the boxes. a game set in the bocage country of normandy cant just be run at a woodland paintball site down south just to please people who are happy to play any old game as long as they get to dress up a bit, if all you want out of a game is the chance to dress up, feel free to go to your local open day in ww2 kit, and have a blast with the marpat guys. to me thats not ww2 airsoft, its just sisk, CIA and PBI are both trying to get away from that. if you can do better please feel free, we would love a game thats 100% spot on with no compremise and someone else does all the hard work and expence.

* i would have loved to do gulch but was too busy sorting 2 PBI games*

 
Posted : 01/06/2009 6:16 am
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.......exactly Scaley. I couldn`t agree more.

I`m currently looking at holding a game next spring, and will certainly book for Haggard. I would have been at the N.Wales game, but with it being the weekend before going to Normandy it was just impractical. (too much stuff to get ready)

Ideally I`d like a woodland game, but having seen the popularity of the UCAP game may go for a CQB. I need to play the site (I have in mind) first to decide what the battle is.

......but ultimately; the idea is to have a good WW2 game, as historically correct as possible, that everyone (who wants to) can attend and at which everyone has a good day. :good:

....guess that also means a pre-event beer 8)

 
Posted : 01/06/2009 7:49 am
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Personally for me I'll go to games that tick the following boxs:

Tight theme, i'd like to see US paras vs Heer rather than all axis versus all allies, the latter never happened. Even in 'combined operations' it was operational suicide to mix different nationalties using different coms gear and different weapons/ammunition in the same frontage area. I'd rather a believable ten a side than a 200 a side where japanese snipers take on the home guard...

Suitable terrain, Just calling something 'stalingrad' and then setting it in a wood doesnt work for me, we chose Grange Farm for two games as in winter its a bit like the balkan foot hills and in summer its just like bocage in places!

Sensible scenarion, again calling something 'Goodwood' and then just trotting out capture the flag/pilot/fort paintball objectives doesnt do it for me. I'd like sensible military type objectives. While i dont expect a platoon of men to liberate Caen, silencing an MG position that has had the company pinned down is just as cool an objective for me.

Decent attitude towards kit, while i dont expect or require everyone to have spot on kit it lets it down when those that *can* turn up to an event in the right kit for the period dont bother. And thats not just for WWII, i went to a stirling 'all out war' north korea game once where the UN forces wore US Woodland or DPM and the Koreans wore 'any other camouflage' , now while 99 per cent of the koreans wore a mismash of flectarn, russian kit and OG some knobbers turned up in UK police SWAT kit... totally missing the point and wrecking the imersion for anyone unfortunate to be skirmishing next to them.

Mission rather than regen, personal choice here. I dont really like regen game finding them a but unrealistic and unable to sustain the concepts of attrition and stealth vital in warfare.

Lastly... Novelty. Im a sucker for this and would go to a game sometimes purely because its an opportunity to play on an exciting site or concept (say the beach at D-day or the tunnels of UCAP).

Now all the above are thing that personally will get me to a game regardless of location (and assuming i'm not gigging that nigth - paid work first!).

What you have to remember is that the purpose of CiA when Dave, Steve, Yith, Guy and I set it up a few years back was simply TO PUT ON GAMES WE WANTED TO PLAY and try to encourage others to follow suit.

It requires a certain DIY attitude to get the ball rolling but to be fair now there are nearly a dozen other folk doing WWII games to various levels of detail (PBI, Gunman, Steiner and Neil, Martin, Taffy & Spiers etc etc) and that initial task is done.

In the immortal words of Waynes World"'Book them and they will come...."*

Cheers

G

* as long as its not a really fecking stupid idea for a game anyway...




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Posted : 01/06/2009 8:26 am
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I tend to feel many of the games are not near me in the North West but we do OK now due to the X-site and Taffy :good:

We have travelled to UCAP twice, which isn't local to Liverpool in any way.

As for other WW2 stuff you have it all in the South W&P show, Delting, Bovington tank museum, Imp War museum etc etc. A sail around the M25 doesn't seem such a hardship from where I sit & yes I have driven round the M25 a number of times, glad I don't have to do it daily though. :wink:

Games in the midlands should be the way forward maybe but the great thing is there is a game for everyone listed on this forum you just need to make the effort to get to one.

From a Northern perspective everything good has always been in the South what ever I have been into in the past Robot Wars was in London as it is where the BBC lives etc.

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Posted : 01/06/2009 8:49 am
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That's it Nigel.

WW2 games are a niche thing and its inevitable that you will need to travel to a game, you can't sit and wait for one to come to you! CiA have run games east, west, north and south (depending on your definition of east, west, north and south) but if any location is ideal then it must be the Midlands (sorry Scots, luckily you are very well catered for up there anyway!).

The WW2 community is very generous with lifts so much is possible, plenty going on across the year, plenty of choice - all it needs is players to make the effort!

Anyhoo, there is much stirring 'down south' so you can expect games a bit more locally in the months and years ahead

 
Posted : 01/06/2009 9:10 am
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