We fielded 20 Brits at Il Giogo in June. 
Low attendance at Rhineland could be due to a number of factors, really. Event in the school holidays for one, same day as Victory Show in Leicestershire, so anybody north of London might have preferred to go there instead.
[edit] In fact, it was 24 including Brit organisers!
You've got nothing to ein, zwei, drei, vier
You can use German impressions at all events in the UK meaning you could spend less and go to more events.
Commonwealth cant go tor all events.
and lets face it
German+yank kit does look much nicer than Brit kit apart from Brit Airbourne.
oh and cheap repro stuff seems easier to get for Yank and German because there in all the modern films.
second question, why dont we get out there and play?
most of us do but events are spread so far out accross the country for some of us getting to events its logistically hard so we can only do a few in a year.
WW2 Weapons AGM Sten, AGM MP40
Um, we've got an entire group of Brits, who train and fight together as PBI. Although we're based all over the country, we try and get to as many events as we can.
We're currently trying to get together a Brit contingent for the Anzio game, if you fancy it. Gadge, and myself are running the Allied side.
Sadly, we didn't get down to the Rhineland game, as a: it was easily a good 4+ hours away, even assuming no traffic, and b: we were at the Victory Show, discussing re-en plans for next year.
20 of those at Il Giogo are forum members, contributing from lots to not a lot. As to your second question, I don't really understand ??
You've got nothing to ein, zwei, drei, vier
Indeed, much as I love WWII airsoft I'm a re-enactor first and a cracking event on my doorstep like the Victory Show would have been daft to miss.
Also as Evo says we spent a day trying to talk various Brit airborne groups into trying airsoft out and most thought it sounded excellent...
PBI have had a fallow year as a lots going on with the organisers (ill health, unemployment and personal issues) but we're hoping to dive back in next year and get a good showing out to Anzio to finish off his year.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
.. are all the troops?
And more to the point, why does everyone post, but very few play?
Not an accurate statement at all - not surprising as you have only been to one game! Take a look at all the past events and their booking lists and you will see. Volturno managed to fill a side of allies without a problem. "Breakout" in November awaits your British booking!
Looking at the booking thread it looks like you hada very respectable 18 or so bookings for the brits...
the question is why did so many not turn up on the day.
I've not been following the thread so i'm not sure how bookings were done but full payment up front tends to galvanise folk into turning up on the day even if they are feeling a bit rough that weekend.
If you did that then I'm surprised a few folk were happy to lose their full fee.
You always get about a 10 per cent drop off though for reasons that cant be helped... I have however looked 'post event' at the feedback and it seems you all had a good time anyway so could have been much worse?
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
I think you're spot on with the motives for most of us being the old 'warlord' comics to a degree.
I've always thought wwii airsoft like being in the best five minutes of your fave war film for six hours or whatever.
Having a quick look at your bookings, obvisuly people *did* pay in full (and i still maintain roughly 20 a side is good numbers these days) so what made them stay at home?
Perhaps a friendly PM from the organisers along the lines of 'sorry you couldnt get to the battle, you were missed and is there anything that we could have done to help?
I just think the problem isnt a lack of brits/commonwealth as you had a respectable book on... the problem is between booking and arrival.
TBH numbers and 'authenticity' (for want of a better word) are a seesaw. A big 'normandy' event allowing any NWE unit with any AEG and as much ammo as you like and counts as kit might pull in 50 a side if you're lucky... start making it 'us vs ss' and you drop down to 30 a side... make it us airborne vs 9th ss and suddely you're down to 15 a side.
But numbers dont mean that much... one of the best games we (pbi) put on was 'St Lo' where we had about 15-17 a side and it was fun, intense and demanding.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
and lets face it
German+yank kit does look much nicer than Brit kit apart from Brit Airbourne.
I have to say I completely disagree with this. I much prefer the British kit although the webbing can be a pain in the arse at times.
As one of the few Brits at Rhineland the original post was obviously not aimed at me and it was a topic of conversation on the day. I wouldn't want to play any side that didn't use the British kit I already have but I have to concede that without the Germans it would all be a bit pointless!
I will do my best to make any event that involves the British. I would have loved to have made Volturno, although I was slightly apprehensive about the odd mixed unit idea, but it clashes with Pickering. I should be at Anzio though.
As for stitch counting well whatever floats your boat. The more accurate the better I say - isn't that the point about WW2 airsoft otherwise isn't it just airsoft? Of course there will always be limitations to resources and availability and ultimately this forum should be about using the stuff rather than collecting it and looking good in the bedroom.
I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.
and lets face it
German+yank kit does look much nicer than Brit kit apart from Brit Airbourne.
I have to say I completely disagree with this. I much prefer the British kit although the webbing can be a pain in the arse at times.
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Weird you should say that, i personally think it was probably the best modular designed webbing in the world at the time....
The german stuff falls to bits when you sit down or undo your belt and leathers not too great when wet.
The US stuff has good points (the bits we nicked when we made 44 pattern like 'lift the dot' and stuff hanging off belt loops) but the idea of weapon specific belts makes it difficult to make your impression fit a variety of weapons without having to buy three belts - you can see why the US moved away from it by the time they made M56
And russian 'webbing', well lets not go there 
See you at Anzio!
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Of course there will always be limitations to resources and availability and ultimately this forum should be about using the stuff rather than collecting it and looking good in the bedroom.
Thank you. You've put it far better than me.
Should it?
Your milage may vary...
WWII airsoft is a pretty broad church. Some folk like doing E&E and are not interested in firing a shot, other interested purely in the mechanical aspect of WWII guns and building them.
By your view there is no place for the latter type of hobbyist?
I see your point but I think it's unfair to write off other peoples hobby focus because it's not the same as yours.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Of course there will always be limitations to resources and availability and ultimately this forum should be about using the stuff rather than collecting it and looking good in the bedroom.
Thank you. You've put it far better than me.
Hmm, I'm not sure; I suppose the gist is apparent but it does seem a very ugly sentence. 
I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.
Difficult to say regarding the drop out rate - at Il Giogo, we had 40 of 41 booked players attend, plus the 6 organisers. However, 14 of the 18 Brits for Rhineland booked up via the range, so I have no idea whether they actually paid anything at all. Also, almost none of them are on this forum, and therefore possibly not that interested in WWII airsoft, full stop.
You've got nothing to ein, zwei, drei, vier
However, 14 of the 18 Brits for Rhineland booked up via the range...
Oh dear... IMHO there should be one route to booking, through the organisers... not through other parties. I've seen this cause issues before.
Difficult to say regarding the drop out rate - at Il Giogo, we had 40 of 41 booked players attend, plus the 6 organisers. However, 14 of the 18 Brits for Rhineland booked up via the range, so I have no idea whether they actually paid anything at all. Also, almost none of them are on this forum, and therefore possibly not that interested in WWII airsoft, full stop.
You see that makes more sense now.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Yes, that does make sense.
Anyway, why didn't I go to Rhineland? Its a very a long way and I had something else on that weekend. Thats life, I think we all go to the events that we can.
I rather enjoy chatting about uniforms and buttons and military history on the forum. I've been doing that sort of thing a lot longer than airsoft.
Cheers
Martin
"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone
I call for a rant thread in off topic so people can discuss ( 
) there views, help keep forums cleaner, just am idea?
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and lets face it
German+yank kit does look much nicer than Brit kit apart from Brit Airbourne.I have to say I completely disagree with this. I much prefer the British kit although the webbing can be a pain in the arse at times.
Weird you should say that, i personally think it was probably the best modular designed webbing in the world at the time....
Oh I agree totally that the concept is great it's just when combined with my arms a terrible tangle often seems to arise and various helves and contents of unbuttoned pouches end up all over the floor. Lack of practise I suppose
See you at Anzio!
Oh yes.
WWII airsoft is a pretty broad church. Some folk like doing E&E and are not interested in firing a shot, other interested purely in the mechanical aspect of WWII guns and building them.
By your view there is no place for the latter type of hobbyist?
I see your point but I think it's unfair to write off other peoples hobby focus because it's not the same as yours.
My first event was Hauptmann Horn and I only fired about 10 shots all day. At Il Giogo Pass I went for RE and would have been quite content blowing things up and diffusing and being blown up by mines. To be honest I have no interest in airsoft as airsoft I started coming along purely because I had bought kit for an unrelated event and felt I should get more use out of it. This perhaps guides my views; I didn't intend to criticise anybody's focus on the hobby and there will always be exceptions and excuses but I am surprised at how small some of the attendances are when the forum can be so active.
Dadio's Bren and Fremsley's Sterling (made by Dadio) were highpoints of my weekend. I admire anyone with engineering skills like his.
Hear, hear
I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.
I regret starting this thread.
No reason why you should, it's a perfectly valid one, especially considering the drop-outs at the game you just attended, and it's raised some interesting points.
Getting people to actually show up for games has always been a pain in the arse and I used to get massively frustrated at the "chairborne" contingent who were content to just yack on about points of accuracy without ever actually playing. Now I just let them get on with it.
To put things into context, the number of no-shows experienced at Rhineland was unusual and was partly due to the "co-production" setup we had with Ford Ranges which didn't really work so well for us in the end. As organisers we won't be making the same mistake. The past few months has seen a big increase in new players and having a game like Volturno book 50 people in a short space of time is very encouraging for the future of the hobby.
