Props, etc.

I've been thinking about the radio station and convinced myself triwall cardboard is the way to go! With charges pre-installed it would only need the raider to get to the station, grab the attached spool of wire and run it back a far as it goes (pre-defining safe distance), attach a clacker then boom. No dangerous debris shards so one less problem to think of. The PMR would actually be under the table so not part of the blast.

I'll sort all that if you want Pete (table, chairs, radio sets and PMR system, charge fixing - complete system ready to go).

I have got a home charcoal BBQ thing but we will need a lot more than that for feeding 40 people! Jimbo (ZeroBravo) does catering at his site and may well have a gas system more appropriate for the job?

Nice one Dave, gives me a bit less to do and time to make the DF a bit better (already got materials - an old, folding camping chair!). Good idea about Jimbo too but, if that fails, I'm happy to pop to B&Q and get a barby. I can't see everyone wanting to stay at the end but, it's not hard to plonk at least 30 sausages at a time on a grill.

I'll sort the parachutes.

Regarding medic bags and bandages. Not sure if we already have bags, but we're short on bandages.

We've used two options on the past:

Cheap bandages: http://bit.ly/9Mls1k
Hessian webbing: http://bit.ly/bQFQsN

Thoughts?

On the subject of pyro. TLSFX will have the launchable smokes from June, so we can order these.

We just need to sort amounts of each: Thermobaric, Smokes , Napthas.

I have two parachutes so no need to bother with that.

I also have four medic bags. I think the hessian bandages are a bit rubbish - they don't look like bandages and are too quick to tie. I think there are some proper bandages in the box left over from Arial, but not many.

Pyro: I can't see much use in buying grenades, if punters want them they can buy them. As listed elsewhere, we do have some thermobarics in stock anyway. A couple of napthas would be great for finale coupled with the 10g we have in stock. But I think the main thing is to have sufficient stocks of mortar rounds to make the mortars useful and justify the time and expense of making them.

I have two parachutes so no need to bother with that.

I also have four medic bags. I think the hessian bandages are a bit rubbish - they don't look like bandages and are too quick to tie. I think there are some proper bandages in the box left over from Arial, but not many.

Pyro: I can't see much use in buying grenades, if punters want them they can buy them. As listed elsewhere, we do have some thermobarics in stock anyway. A couple of napthas would be great for finale coupled with the 10g we have in stock. But I think the main thing is to have sufficient stocks of mortar rounds to make the mortars useful and justify the time and expense of making them.

NB: By thermobarics, I meant mortar rounds. They're two-stage thermobarics.

I've been brainstorming about the DF and planned to use copper piping. I was tidying up a bit on the back garden today and found an old folding chair, which got me thinking. So after some chopping and some gaffer tape to get a rough shape, I came up with a very rough prototype.

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Obviously, if I progress the prototype further, it will be bolted or welded together and the plastic fittings will be gone or concealed. I've got some bits of wood to make the base box for it and, if I finish it quickly, I may even motorise it, so it rotates. The only problem I foresee is the size of this, so, I may still go with the copper pipe option.

This is a picture of a real one, for reference.

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Heh, don't make it too big to transport! Looks like no need for specific RAL colours - any grey will do.

I've been thinking about blowing the RS with safety in mind: Since the Germans have control on what goes on in the camp and the allies will be flitting in and out then it makes sense to have detonation in German hands as they will be in a position to control personnel. It would destroy suspension of disbelief for a Jed/SAS as organiser to stomp about telling people to clear the area.

So, the Pete has in the SAS camp an US ammo bag containing sticks of Nobels explosive with time pencil (which I already have). It is this that gets placed next to the radio sets during the German camp raid. Whether Pete hands the bag to a Jed or SAS player to do the business or Pete or Stephen does it doesn't matter (but I'd suggest a player does it though to give them a sense of achievement). The battle can continue from that point with either a fighting withdrawal or just a continued raging battle ebbing and flowing or even allies being chased away from woods. Since the charges have been placed with a time pencil then the radio station can be blown at precisely 12noon by me (meh, I want to destroy my own kit!) safely and in complete and relaxed control. Endex.

Good idea.

We'll therefore construct a small trebuchet and lob the pyro from a distance.

OK, just had a call from TLSFX regarding the mortar and smoke rounds.

Both the two stage thermobarics and smokes will be in 44mm tubing and have changed slightly so will be struck from the top as one loads it.

Tony has said that we would need 50mm tubing for the loading tube. (I asked whether that meant the diameter of the mortar pipe or the loading tube and the lady passing on the message said the loading tube.) 6mm of play seems like a hell of a lot, but I can't remember exactly how these load and fire.

They will apparently fire around 100m.

Hope that makes some sense to you Jay.

I can't quite understand how they can be struck from the top - they were struck from the bottom before through a hole on the tube base.

They just moved the fuse to the top, with the charge at the bottom I guess. Stick it in the holder, strike the top, drop it in.

But the fuse burns from the bottom igniting the bang then continues burning up inside the casing until it catches the second bang. Heh, I'm baffled by a fuse at the top - still, saves drilling a hole in the tube and the risk of snuffing the fuse if you drop in in the mortar too soon.

Thanks for that info. It's easy enough to design something thats top fused. Still, me and Guy are the ones with the engineering backgrounds, not you media type ponces

As to 6mm, that is a *lot* of play, might make some up that are a bit tighter than that as well. I'm going to use T6 ally this time. 5mm walls will be more than enough to contain any that go off in the tube - with a BIG safety margin. Another benefit of using Ally is that corrosion isnt a problem, and with no hole at the bottom, more of the gas can be used to propel the pyro up and out instead of being wasted by being vented through the bottom of the shell.

Is it 50mm OD? If it is there ain't 6mm to play with.

urgh, i should just do a drawing be a lot easier to explain lol

Don't bother, its your problem to sort out - I have more than enough to do. But we do need to know how many mortars we will have and now many rounds we will need. Any idea on cost of these new rounds Stephen?

2 Mortars, 2 shells for each.

Well, I did ask that. She said 50mm inside diameter.

Perhaps best ring Tony direct for clarification.

Some talk about trip mines and such. I'm not very happy about players setting such things up, esp 12guage. Apart from the risks to players (both setters and trippers) they won't have much use other than blowing your own side up. However, Josh with clacker tripped small maroons I think is absolutely fine - eyes-on and a very responsible user who can be relied on.