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Steiner
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If you're thinking of getting a FJ jump smock, check out SoF - they are selling the Sturm / Miltec green type II (incorrectly labelled as "first pattern" - duh!) for only £59!! I've got one, and they're really nice - perfect for both early and late war impression. :good:
http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/ProductDet ... x?id=10356

(Don't buy their splinter one - it's the wrong pattern.)


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Posted : 09/12/2012 12:26 pm
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Ahem...Knochensack. It means bone sack.

As you were.



 
Posted : 09/12/2012 9:13 pm
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Indeed it does, HS. :)


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Posted : 09/12/2012 10:08 pm
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By the way, Richard Underwood does the same one for only £8 MORE which is also a bargain...

.... it comes with a sewn on breast eagle ;)

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Posted : 20/02/2013 4:40 pm
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Just out of curiosity, are the majority of the falshy section coming in green or splinter pattern. I can't justify shelling out for a green one but I have got a dutch coverall that could be altered to suit if needs be.
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Posted : 19/03/2013 7:44 pm
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Myself and Tom will coming in the dutch coveralls as I think the green is more iconic look of the battle, but I think splinter is acceptable :good:

 
Posted : 19/03/2013 7:48 pm
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I'm also coming in an early green knockensack...
Seems to be the way forward if its available to you, but as both early and splinter were worn at Crete I don't think the organisers are that bothered either way..

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Posted : 19/03/2013 8:09 pm
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The more green, the more early war we'll look. :good:


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Posted : 19/03/2013 8:39 pm
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I think you are so right Steiner.. When twenty or thirty guys are dressed the same (uniform uniform) it does look fantastic and adds to the realism of the event...

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Posted : 19/03/2013 9:44 pm
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Righto, dutch overalls, scissors, needle and thread it is then :good:

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Posted : 19/03/2013 11:15 pm
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Coolio, Steve! :good:


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Posted : 20/03/2013 8:41 am
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Splinter was just coming in during the battle for Crete. I understand it was issued to some Falschirmjager ( :ghey: ) but it was very rare at this time and I have seen no picture evidence of its use on Crete.
Again I can't remember what my source was, I ought to make a note of these things when I spot them, but that would require me to become an organised person... not going to happen is it?




 
Posted : 20/03/2013 11:24 am
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Now I was sure that Andy has a book on FJ at Crete which does show a mix of plain and splinter B both being used.
The splinters were also type 2 (step-in). :?:

Either way, I will reiterate that for our event, both plain green and splinter are both perfectly good. :good:

Personally I think a bit of splinter mixed in will make it look more authentic! Everyone in an M38 helmet is what will make you look like a proper FJ unit!

If you do have the later type with popper leg closure then it would be ideal if you can keep it poppered closed, jump ready! I do know this can actually be tricky as the poppers on most of the repos are quite weak and undo as soon as you bend down! :slap: so might be a good idea to add a few tack stitches to keep it closed.

Don't stitch em too tight though like Lardy did at Hauptmann Horn and found he couldn't climb over anything and could barely crouch down! :giggle:

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Posted : 20/03/2013 12:34 pm
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I've definitely seen pictures of Splinter used on Crete. Both smocks and helmet covers although I don't think I've seen both together. Green was far more common of course.

Don't stitch em too tight though like Lardy did at Hauptmann Horn and found he couldn't climb over anything and could barely crouch down!

It wasn't the stitching that was the problem, that stitching lasted all of 5 minutes against my quads of steel. :rofl: The smock just isn't quite big enough to do up if you actually have leg muscles due to the Chinese sizing. I'd need a couple of sizes up to actually do them up properly.

My plans for green smock have fallen through and I can't justify for new smock £60 so I may have to try again anyway. Unless I can be bothered to convert the overalls I have (my engineer kit from Freshman).

I understand it was issued to some Falschirmjager ( :ghey: )

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Posted : 20/03/2013 1:01 pm
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If anyone fancies looking through the Bundesarchiv there's a good set of pictures from Crete
http://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/cross-s ... 01/?search[page]=1

 
Posted : 20/03/2013 6:05 pm
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Climb back on top of your rock you glorified goat herder. :raspberry:

How very dare you! Any more of that and 'Die Gams' will not come and bail you glory boys out of the big hole you managed to jump into. :roll:
Can anybody point me towards these pictures of Falschirmjager on Crete in splinter camo? I've looked and can't find any. I'm sure they were used as I came across it in a source before but I can't find pictures to prove it. Tar.
Oh, and I think you're right in so far as it looks better with a mix. Bit more ad hoc. You would of course look much better in a nice smart Bergmutze. :wink:




 
Posted : 21/03/2013 5:57 pm
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I've got the old 'elite' magazine collection and one of the pictures from he FJ in Crete artical shows 3 of a 4 man mortar team in splinter smocks with at least 1 maybe 2 with splinter camo helmet covers.





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Posted : 21/03/2013 8:03 pm
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Any pointers/recommendations for the correct type of luftwaffe breast eagle to sew on my converted dutch coveralls?
'shokt

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Posted : 22/03/2013 11:40 am
Boshman
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Any pointers/recommendations for the correct type of luftwaffe breast eagle to sew on my converted dutch coveralls?
'shokt

This should do the job nicely!

[link]http://militaria-net.co.uk/oscommerce/catalog/fallschimjager-breast-eagle-p-803.html[/link]

“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 22/03/2013 12:43 pm
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Nicely indeed, thanks Boshman :good:

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Posted : 22/03/2013 2:25 pm
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