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mikeyswb1987
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hi guys you have probably heard this many times before but is there a how to step by step guide on converting an m14 into an m1 for cheap
i found one via google but was from an american and couldnt realy figure out what he meant!
i know there are kits to buy like from shoot`n`scoot but i just dont have that sort of cash to blow and i`d be saveing a while (i`d rather use money for playing)
so is it possible?
and can anybody help me?

cheers guys
mike

 
Posted : 22/06/2011 5:16 pm
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Getting the gas cylinder mentioned in that guide might be a problem. There's a potential that it might be an illegal part here in the UK.
I'm not sure if Warren would supply just that part.

 
Posted : 22/06/2011 7:55 pm
mikeyswb1987
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There was one made by a Canadian guy if that's what your talking about. It is the only guide on the Internet. It was pretty straight forward with good pictures but I guess it could be confusing if you don't speak English well. Here it is though. http://www.ontarioairsoftwwiireenactors ... Garand.pdf
It isn't the best way to make one but you should be able to add your own little touches. Its a good guide to get a general idea of what you have to do though.

ye this is the one i found but i couldnt make much sense of it
i`m not massivly clued up on airsoft guns to be honest

 
Posted : 22/06/2011 8:20 pm
greedo1980
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I have a wooden garand stock and the 2 handguards for sale if you want them mate.

AGM MP40 - AGM STG44 - CYMA Thompson M1A1 - WE P08 4 inch - Marushin M1 Carbine GBB - AGM Sten MkII

 
Posted : 23/06/2011 10:22 am
ww2stu
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currently working on a garand atm from a Kart M14 and will post some pictures if it helps.

Hope to have them on soon.

Stu

 
Posted : 23/06/2011 11:55 am
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Ok.

So there are a few ways you can go with your project. You can buy one of the shoot and scoot kits from Warren. Or you can grab yourself a real ww2 stock and other cosmetic parts and have a go yourself.

I choose to get a real ww2 dated stock with matching front and rear handguard (although i was sold it to that description i have my doubts!)

What you will need from a m14 base rifle kart, tm, cyma are fine although i have heard of issues with the CA and a few more problems with the G&G. Please note the motor and the motor cage are missing in this picture.

Then using measurments from the plastic m14 body start to carve up your stock to fit the parts in the first picture. Go slow, i went slow with mine but still took off a bit to much, but this was the problem using wood dated 1940 it was so easy to get into. Once this is done you should have something similiar to this.

Now when you get this far a few problems arise. The barrel in the picture doesnt make it all the way to the end of the rifle so will have to sort out some cosmetic peice to go threre but i also think i will need to make it pretty solid. (if anyone has any ideas or can share what they used please do) Also the rear handguard (the peice of wood nearest the sights) will not fit so you will need to remove material from the peice below. But that shouldnt be to much of a problem.

On the 2nd picture you may of noticed some white tape. This was used to mark the angle of the hole which had to be drilled into the stock by using a protractor to measure the angle. So far my whole looks like this with a couple more hours of work it should be able to fit the motor cage. (which i also sanded down to help reduce the amount of wood needed to be removed.) The Hole:

As this is a real stock you have 2 holes which hold the cleaning kit. On my build i am sort of using the top hole as a guide to my motor hole. Which i hope i have captured(ish) in the photo below. I plan to run my wires and possibly a fet of some description down this hole which will lead to a stick battery in the bottom hole. Which is accesable through the metal flap on the butt plate.

After this is all done its all about cosmetic's like fitting a gas block, having a fixed bolt or trying to modify the m14 cocking mechanism so it fits the garand (needs material to be removed)

The only problems so far i have come across my build is:
Wood is strong on the outside but once you start carving on the inside it feels weak. It almost feels "rotten" all though this is probs the wrong word to use.
Length of the cosmetic barrel (which i think needs to be strong and not just "cosmetic")
Cocking solution i havent tackled yet but should be ok.
and coming back on to the subject of stocks and wood. The korean stocks were meant to be thicker were the motor enters the stock than the WW2 dated brothers. And on other forums many people have broke stocks as they remove wood to fit the motor cage.

Hope this has at least been 0.1% helpful. But i am still working on mine as we speak! :slap:

Stu

 
Posted : 23/06/2011 11:01 pm
mikeyswb1987
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ye cheers stu makes abit of sense to me know
so i supose its a matter of striping it down getting the bits and just doing it ay
and being pretty much self explanetary whilst doing it!
where did you get your gas tube and sight from?

 
Posted : 23/06/2011 11:30 pm
ww2stu
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i got a (pot) metal part from a model gun / cap gun but comes with realistic sights etc.

 
Posted : 24/06/2011 7:18 am
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Nice idea, might give that a go with my classic army M14

GUNS: (ww2)
AGM sten mkII
Classic Army Colt 1911A1 GBB pistol
ARES PPSh-41
Deact Mosin M38

 
Posted : 28/06/2011 12:39 pm
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