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ww2stu
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The ST PPSH and the Sten (presuming you got the cheap agm) are copies of the Aries and Viva arms guns. As they have to make there moulds from the actual gun it self (like reverse engineering i surpose) there quality and sizes may always be slightly off. I have owned many airsoft guns and never had to do this to any of mine. ALthough it is slightly off topic compatability of parts sometimes causes this and the best ppl to laugh at are the M4 jockeys.They will have a G&P gun, Classic Army Mag houusing, with a Tokyo Marui mag catch and they expect it to hold D Boys high cap mags! And get angry when then dont or need to adjust mags or add foam etc :rofl:

 
Posted : 25/07/2011 12:56 pm
oddball
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There is a problem with the drum mag feed spring tube.
the tube tends to take a straight angle and pinch off the BB flow.
So here is a quick fix using a strip of aluminium and 2 cable ties.
Those coloured BB's are good 0.2's even though they look like the naff type.

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Posted : 19/08/2011 10:26 am
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is the fed tube thing a common problem or something wich developes over time / and use ?

so far my issued st-ppsh drum and an altered hp--ppsh drum both feed fine in my toy.

 
Posted : 19/08/2011 11:38 pm
oddball
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is the fed tube thing a common problem or something wich developes over time / and use ?

so far my issued st-ppsh drum and an altered hp--ppsh drum both feed fine in my toy.

The mags fall out easy if someone holds the wood stock just behind the drum mag, they push on the mag release which drops your mag on the concrete floor and the shock jumps the spring out of its fixing.
2 hours of trying to set it up by adjusting it got me nowhere.
So this is the best fix, so I suggest it is worth doing now before it happens to you. 8)

One thing I didn't try though is the spring end at the top of the mag swivels so it may be that the idea is you fix the bottom in place then swivel the top to apply back rotaional pressure to hold the spring in a diferent curve.

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Posted : 20/08/2011 7:26 am
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is the fed tube thing a common problem or something wich developes over time / and use ?

so far my issued st-ppsh drum and an altered hp--ppsh drum both feed fine in my toy.

The mags fall out easy if someone holds the wood stock just behind the drum mag, they push on the mag release which drops your mag on the concrete floor and the shock jumps the spring out of its fixing.

That is probably why the ares is more expensive. Little things like that. There are no problems with the mag catch on the ares. BTW, How wobbly is the mag on the ST?

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Posted : 29/08/2011 11:16 am
oddball
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is the fed tube thing a common problem or something wich developes over time / and use ?

so far my issued st-ppsh drum and an altered hp--ppsh drum both feed fine in my toy.

The mags fall out easy if someone holds the wood stock just behind the drum mag, they push on the mag release which drops your mag on the concrete floor and the shock jumps the spring out of its fixing.

That is probably why the ares is more expensive. Little things like that. There are no problems with the mag catch on the ares. BTW, How wobbly is the mag on the ST?

Not that bad but a stronger spring would help, but once you know it isn't a problem. If you fit the aries stick it isn't a problem at all. All guns have slight problems, the lad with the aries above had a problem that his gears chewed to bits in 2 weeks :wink: but I think that was because he was using 9.6v and blow back all the time.
Once you know how to hold it no problems.

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Posted : 29/08/2011 12:36 pm
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sthe lad with the aries above had a problem that his gears chewed to bits in 2 weeks :wink: but I think that was because he was using 9.6v and blow back all the time.
Once you know how to hold it no problems.

haha actually it was 2 days! :lolpanda: It turned out that the piston stripped and the motor burned out! Pics below...-- attachment is not available --

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Posted : 05/09/2011 9:56 am
oddball
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sthe lad with the aries above had a problem that his gears chewed to bits in 2 weeks :wink: but I think that was because he was using 9.6v and blow back all the time.
Once you know how to hold it no problems.

haha actually it was 2 days! :lolpanda: It turned out that the piston stripped and the motor burned out! Pics below...

My piston on my TM Thompson stripped inside of 30min at a game last Nov due to piss poor BB's the site owner gave me. It also took the teeth off my sector gear, are you sure the ammo you were using was ok :idea:

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Posted : 06/09/2011 11:12 am
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My piston on my TM Thompson stripped inside of 30min at a game last Nov due to piss poor BB's the site owner gave me. It also took the teeth off my sector gear, are you sure the ammo you were using was ok :idea:

definitely, I only use quality controlled pellets above 0.2 gram. ARES even changed the recommended battery to 8.4 in the manual!

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ARES PPSh-41
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Posted : 06/09/2011 11:44 am
oddball
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ARES even changed the recommended battery to 8.4 in the manual!

Ah that sounds like a good idea as I thought 8.4 seemed about right on the ST with all that blow back stuff I would not over run it. :good:

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Posted : 06/09/2011 1:32 pm
Steve.D
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Ya know Oddball, I had a full set of low milage TM v6 gears there ;-)

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Posted : 06/09/2011 10:20 pm
oddball
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Ya know Oddball, I had a full set of low milage TM v6 gears there ;-)

Steve.D

Yep but went for a steel set this time, nice to see you on here you missed a good game.

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Posted : 07/09/2011 6:06 am
TheChef
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Stick mags for these have just been released on wgc at £20 inc postage, cheaper than the ares ones that are hard to get hold of and at 540 rounds easier for the general 600 round limit than the drum mags, ordered mine so ill let you know about the quality, feeding etc

http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/product_detail1.php?search_From=special&item=ST-AMAG-PPSH&search=special&rs=New%20Release&catid=&cat=

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Posted : 26/09/2011 6:03 pm
Cadaceus
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Do any UK retailers stock the ST PPSH?

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Posted : 26/09/2011 6:54 pm
TheChef
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Not that im aware of put patrol base where i work can import it for you.

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Posted : 26/09/2011 7:19 pm
Cadaceus
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Not that im aware of put patrol base where i work can import it for you.

Patrol Base in Huddersfield?

Yeah got a few bits and bobs and my Sten from Chris there if it's the same place

Any idea of the cost?

Cad

Impressions:
U.S. 35th Inf Tech Sargeant
British Royal Artillery Gunner
Generic SS Mann
Weapons:
Cyma M1A1
ASG Sten MK2
ASG MP40
TM M1911A1
WE Browning High Power
HFC Mauser C96

 
Posted : 26/09/2011 8:56 pm
TheChef
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Not that im aware of put patrol base where i work can import it for you.

Patrol Base in Huddersfield?

Yeah got a few bits and bobs and my Sten from Chris there if it's the same place

Any idea of the cost?

Cad

Thats the one, i work there on saturaday mornings and i would expect about £210, have a word with chris and im sure he can sort you out,

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Posted : 26/09/2011 8:58 pm
Cadaceus
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Not that im aware of put patrol base where i work can import it for you.

Patrol Base in Huddersfield?

Yeah got a few bits and bobs and my Sten from Chris there if it's the same place

Any idea of the cost?

Cad

Thats the one, i work there on saturaday mornings and i would expect about £210, have a word with chris and im sure he can sort you out,

Will do that cheers
Cad

Impressions:
U.S. 35th Inf Tech Sargeant
British Royal Artillery Gunner
Generic SS Mann
Weapons:
Cyma M1A1
ASG Sten MK2
ASG MP40
TM M1911A1
WE Browning High Power
HFC Mauser C96

 
Posted : 26/09/2011 8:59 pm
TheChef
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Quick review on the stick mag,
- the bb port is a little small spring loaded catch which isnt the easiest to fill but is good enough
- quite a hefty thing which for me is a good thing
- quite stiff to get in and out of the magwell but im sure will ease in time
- feeds flawlessly so far, no misfires
- on a full wind it only does out 150ish rounds so alot of winding
- looks good on the gun, and sets it apart from other ppsh and makes sure unknowledgables thinking its a 'tommy gun'

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Posted : 04/10/2011 3:51 pm
oddball
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- quite stiff to get in and out of the magwell but im sure will ease in time
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I gave mine aslight tap with a hammer but it is still tight but dont want to file the mag.

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Posted : 04/10/2011 10:07 pm
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