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dadio
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not sure i'd like to use these on a horizontal trajectory but they may be perfect as mortar round's as a substitute for the expensive and unreliable tlfx rounds [link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0zTy84rBxY[/link]

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Posted : 20/12/2013 5:53 pm
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They would be spot on as mortar rounds, distance and accuracy way better. Also they would be good for putting in a bazooka

 
Posted : 21/12/2013 11:15 am
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I'm sure that I've seen somewhere, that these are illegal in the UK.



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Posted : 21/12/2013 12:27 pm
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nice idea for a bazooka but you have to think of the worst case scenario of a point blank hit to the face , could easily knock the eye protection off you'r face , as a mortar it's less likely , everything we do is inherently dangerous but a line has to be drawn somewhere .i was reading on another forum that they were legal but i could easily be wrong , they also said that no site permitted their use but for our use maybe it would not matter , can't be more dangerous than the two stage pyro we already use !

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 21/12/2013 2:51 pm
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Yep I agree on the bazooka where safety is concerned. It would only be used against vehicles of course taking into consideration nearby ground troops. If they are legal then its a deffinate new project for you there Dadio :happyswing:

 
Posted : 21/12/2013 9:17 pm
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Are those pyro being triggered on impact? Dunno whether those would be legal in the UK. Firing pyro at people is a no-no. Hell, you shouldn't even throw pyro at people (ever read the instructions?!). The TLSFX mortar pyro was especially developed in consultation with HSE to comply with regulations here in the UK and can only be launched into the air as a mortar (and covered by associated airborne fireworks regs IIRC), never in a horizontal tube such as a bazooka, whether at people or not.

 
Posted : 21/12/2013 10:30 pm
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Ah the three "L's" of the firework code
Light it
Lob it
Leg it
bring's back the happy day's of my youth :giggle:

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 22/12/2013 10:11 am
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Indeed, banger wars in the woods were super fun. There are some of us around who would happily play with such recklessness in airsoft now, but others seem to know better. :(

 
Posted : 22/12/2013 12:13 pm
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Those would be cool in my 40mm tank barrel but not likely to happn :giggle:

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Posted : 23/12/2013 9:45 am
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Those would be cool in my 40mm tank barrel but not likely to happn :giggle:

:good:

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 23/12/2013 9:00 pm
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Firesupport sell the inert, solid projectile version.
I'm pretty sure the others are illegal (the impact det pyro) or grey areas WRT Section 5 restrictions.

 
Posted : 14/01/2014 12:33 am
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believe it or not i can get ahold of these if anyone wants them. one of the paintball chaps we deal with at op-tac was showing them off to us on Sunday and he has quite a quantity in stock. brilliant if used solely as a vehicle disabling prop in a bazooka

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Posted : 14/01/2014 11:12 am
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I would be interested in a price and export options to South Africa. Our firearm/pyro rules here are a bit more lenient, so I don't expect issues from the law (barring cases where common sense fail, obviously...).

 
Posted : 14/01/2014 11:24 am
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believe it or not i can get ahold of these if anyone wants them. one of the paintball chaps we deal with at op-tac was showing them off to us on Sunday and he has quite a quantity in stock. brilliant if used solely as a vehicle disabling prop in a bazooka

Which particular shells did he have?

 
Posted : 15/01/2014 11:04 am
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he has the "reaper" impact pyro rounds and of course the 40mm launcher shells. should be able to get ahold of the smoke rounds too

Current ww2 armoury
King arms Thompson, ICS M1 Garand, ACM ZB28, ICS M3 Grease gun, ACM M1918 BAR, Kjw M1911, 2x WE Highpowers, Kwa Tokarev, Webley VI, PPS Bazooka, AGM STG44, Custom M1919 .30cal

 
Posted : 15/01/2014 1:07 pm
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he has the "reaper" impact pyro rounds and of course the 40mm launcher shells. should be able to get ahold of the smoke rounds too

How did he manage that? Out of all of them, I'd have thought the impact pyro would be 100% Section 5.

 
Posted : 15/01/2014 1:11 pm
Wattsy
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tbh i figured it was best not to ask too many questions regarding the legalities. the paintball community seem to be able to get a hold of them though, maybe they know something we dont?? i can contact him regarding prices ect for those interested.

i agree i wouldn't like to have one used against me by some random chap on an open day but for the ww2 community who would use them properly within a scenario id say its worth a punt

Current ww2 armoury
King arms Thompson, ICS M1 Garand, ACM ZB28, ICS M3 Grease gun, ACM M1918 BAR, Kjw M1911, 2x WE Highpowers, Kwa Tokarev, Webley VI, PPS Bazooka, AGM STG44, Custom M1919 .30cal

 
Posted : 15/01/2014 1:16 pm
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TBH, I don't think a potential firearms offence is "worth a punt"...

 
Posted : 15/01/2014 1:49 pm
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I don't think one can assume they are illegal or even potentially illegal - some expert knowledge is required here. My eyebrows are raised to be sure and I've never come across impact detonating devices beyond BFGs (which aren't illegal). My understanding (from previous conversations with a leading manufacturer) is that mortar-style pyro made to appropriate standards (and checked by HSE) is OK as it falls under aerial firework standards - tilt the mortar to the horizontal and the legality changes.

 
Posted : 15/01/2014 3:48 pm
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tilt the mortar to the horizontal and the legality changes.

These aren't "mortar-style pyro". 40mm rounds are made for M203/M79 and other launchers, not mortars.

 
Posted : 15/01/2014 4:34 pm
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