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Ghost MacRoth
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Yep, he's right you know. Take mine for example, mag is absolutely fine, but hop was rubbish beyond belief. Then there's others who seem to work fine on both!! Not heard anyone have issues with both (yet!).


 
Posted : 19/03/2010 8:25 pm
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Just had a quick look at the mag i have here. Seems like it takes M4 type guts in the plastic casing affixed to the inside of the drum, so replacement of the working parts (cogs, spring etc etc) will be a piece of piss.

Personally speaking, I think its a bit of an illogical design - they would have been better off using a TM Uzi type hicap mech down the centre with a V shaped bracket to feed the BB's into IMHO. Still, ive got a few real-steel PPsH mags floating around here, so i might see if i can get a real mag to fit, then mod it according to my tastes.


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Posted : 19/03/2010 8:34 pm
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Well I've had a good look at the HP I got today.

Overall the metalwork does look wonderful! The woodwork needs refinishing though.

I agree on the hop unit. Pretty poor, and not lined up when I got it. I'll have to see how it fires.

Mag seems fine. I've had no misfeeds or problems so far!

The fire selector is a bit odd. Fully forward is full-auto, fully back is semi-auto. Somewhere random in the middle will make it safe. I think this was more by luck than by design.

The gun sounds nice and runs well of the 7.4V lipos I use with my Viva Sten and also the 8.4V minis I use with my MP40.

Now, I use deans connectors on my batteries and changing the tamiya mini connector for a deans is where I started to have problems. As soon as I tried to strip the wires I managed to pull the wiring out... this meant I had to take the whole gun apart to get the gearbox out and re-wire it.

A bit of advice, this is not for the faint of heart... Getting it apart is no problem at all. Getting it back together is another matter and took quite a bit of effort and fiddling about. It is back together now though and is all working again...

One more thing, I'm not sure I'd say the whole gun is made of bears... lol. The wood and metal parts slot together reasonably strongly, but there is a single small screw holding it all in place. This screw only becomes visible once the trigger guard is removed and acts more like a pin than a screw. I think the way things are built it is certainly strong enough to be skirmished with and strong enough to be slung and thrown about a lot, but I don't think I'll be using mine as a chair!

Overall though I'm happy with the gun and do recommend it.


 
Posted : 19/03/2010 10:39 pm
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One more thing, I'm not sure I'd say the whole gun is made of bears... lol.

Maybe it is, but they're koala bears. :)


 
Posted : 19/03/2010 11:13 pm
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Yes I can't see how they can make it strong anything like a real one would be.

This is my mag with a Cyma Thompson mag inside.


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Posted : 19/03/2010 11:47 pm
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The fire selector is a bit odd. Fully forward is full-auto, fully back is semi-auto. Somewhere random in the middle will make it safe. I think this was more by luck than by design.

lol, I think the safety for a real PPsh is just to stand behind it!


 
Posted : 20/03/2010 12:36 am
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Safety on a real PPsH is to lock the bolt in position IIRC.


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Posted : 20/03/2010 2:27 pm
Ghost MacRoth
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I have the same issue with the selector, the 'safe' position' is a random setting somewhere between the fire modes, well, sometimes it is!!


 
Posted : 20/03/2010 5:28 pm
 Yith
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Yeah, the HP has a bolt lock, but of course that doesn't affect the firing of the gun. lol.


 
Posted : 20/03/2010 8:19 pm
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Well I used the gun all day today... I loved using it so much I couldn't stop. Even though the fecking mag is a NIGHTMARE.

The thing jams and misfeeds all the time, even after siliconing the whole thing to hell and back.

I'm not 100% sure but I think the M16 mag internals are to blame, they seem very prone to jamming.

The spring that acts as a bb guide from the mag internals to the feed hole also doesn't help.

But the gun... the gun... man it's wonderful! Mine chronoed at 346fps and had excellent range, even with the mag being a pain in the arse I got loads of kills.

I'll probably be chatting to Airsoft World to see if anything can be done for the mag. If not I'll be replacing the internals with a good reliable brand of M16 maginternals... or just fannying about with it until it works.

(Edit: ah I've read the review now... I guess the mag internals need changing.)


 
Posted : 21/03/2010 9:38 pm
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Thought I'd give an update on the mag...

I sent it back to AW to have the internals replaced with ones from a better type of armalite mag. When I got it back it was still having the same problem, though I managed to produce a test which proved the problem was the mag mech and not the feed tube.

After quite a few headscratching emails I tried loosening the screw next to the internal counterweight about half a turn and the mag seems to have freed up somewhat. There are a lot fewer jams now and the whole thing runs a lot better.

Anyway whether this has really fixed the problem will only be found when I get chance to go on another skirmish with it. Not sure when that'll be! I've just checked my diary and it's jammed full of non-airsoft stuff!


 
Posted : 02/04/2010 9:13 am
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I used mine last week at Ground Zero. Excellent fun, the range is great, lost count of the number of kills I got. I guess I got lucky with my mag as it didnt jam or misfeed, although it did seem to unwind sometimes. I changed the hop rubber before I used it and found the hop wasnt putting any pressure on the bucking, so I added a small piece of hop rubber and that fixed it. Had to let quite a few people have a go with it, and they all seemed to like it. I've sanded it down now and oiled the stock and its looking better, just need to use it a few more times to give it that battle scarred look. Just waiting for them to bring out the box magazines now.


 
Posted : 02/04/2010 9:37 am
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Cool.

Yeah I replaced the hop bucking with a bit of bic biro refill before I first used it.

Redoing the stock is a job for next week I think! :)


 
Posted : 02/04/2010 9:44 am
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Redoing the stock is a job for next week I think! :)

Luckily the ginger varnish isnt too thick, it didnt take too long to get rid of most of it. I used dark oak Danish oil, which gave a medium brown finish on the stock.

Cant wait to use it again now.


 
Posted : 02/04/2010 9:57 am
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I had a play with the ARES PPSH today, and I'm taking it out again tomorrow evening. Fantastic piece of kit, the hop was easy to adjust and the blowback looks cool. Only fitted an 8.4 mini into the stock but if I buy it I'll drill out the stock to take at least a 9.6 mini or preferabaly the big 7.4 lipoly I got. Range wasn't all that good with standard hop but willing to give it a chance to bed in. Chronod about the 350 mark with 0.2's out of the box. I dont have the price yet, and I know it wont be cheap but it picks up out of the box and plays well. Stamped 1944 marking on the top of th gun and the lock back bolt safety works! No mag feed issues so far and I think I put a thousand rounds throught it.





 
Posted : 25/04/2010 10:43 pm
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Well, I saw both PPSh versions in action this weekend. Both look lovely, and both have a distinctive sound - but Jimbo's one with the working bolt was absolutely awesome. Very good range, too.



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Posted : 06/09/2010 9:41 am
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Had a good look at a Ares one the weekend before last. Ive never been a fan of ares/star as they have always been a bit wank. Maybe thats what happens when you pay to much attension to the body of the weapon and not the internals.

But the PPSH is a truely awesome bit of kit. Once the hop has bedded in the thing is like a bb hose. Good range, good power all round lovely bit of kit. Blowback is one of the nicer ones out there and drum mag feeds really well,Internals look nice and strong on inspection too. Just wish ICS would make one now


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 12:31 pm
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Well, I saw both PPSh versions in action this weekend. Both look lovely, and both have a distinctive sound - but Jimbo's one with the working bolt was absolutely awesome. Very good range, too.

Indeed, I was very impressed with both the HP and the Ares. but the blowback action and the better barrel shroud fabrication makes me think the Ares could well be worth the extra cost. I think I'll be putting one on my xmas list :giggle:


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Posted : 06/09/2010 6:06 pm
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I love it and consider it to be my absolute favorite AEG. The difference between this gun and a modern M4 is like the difference between an Escort and a Bently. The stock just needs finishing oil and a lot of buffing, but no colour changes, and I had to drill out the internal stock space to fit in the huge 20c 3300 mah 7.4 lipo battery that runs it all. I'm not sure how much damage the standard contacts will bear so will get a techie to see if I need to have a mosfet fitted. Overall the gun is very user friendly, feels comfortable to fire in the aim and from the hip an the drum mag makes an excellent knuckle shield! The pin that holds the rear flip sight parted company with the rest of the body, so that's a thing to watch for, and there's hexi bolts on the top rail and phillips screws holding the sling swivel in plate on the stock to upset the purists but easily changed / hidden. If you want a pa pa she, to lay down support weapon rate of fire, then this is the gun for you.





 
Posted : 06/09/2010 10:29 pm
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I'll have to put in a word for the HP version. At £100 less than the Ares its good value. A little work on the stock will have it looking good. Plus its not too difficult to adapt a real drum mag to fit. It is my absolute favourite AEG. And I agree the drum mag makes a good shield on both versions :)


 
Posted : 07/09/2010 7:52 am
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