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Ghost MacRoth
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Well, I bought a real M1 stock, and while it is indeed possible to get it to fit the M14, it was a task WAAAAAAAAY beyond my woodworking skills. I would reccomend AZR as they custom make the stock (which is admittedly a bit fat at the grip) and they look the mutts nuts.

Oops, just reread the post after answering, and I do apologise if I've strayed off topic there, but after all, the aim is to get a real wood stock as the end result innit? :wink:

 
Posted : 09/02/2009 11:25 pm
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i am in the process of looking into machining out RS garand stocks, i think i have an idea that involves drilling out from the bottom of the hand bit, then plugging and sealing a wooden cap over it. i am going to try it on a softwood blank and see if it works.

 
Posted : 10/02/2009 7:58 am
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this is a non starter, to fit the motor in the hand grip part you need a minimum of 34 mm, there is only 36-37 mm to work with. due to the angle you must drill the chances of coming through the wood are massive, if you succeed, the neck is so paper thin( 1-1.5 mm) there is no strength. we tried this on 2 mock ups ( didnt want to destroy imps m1 stock) on the hard wood one, the torque from the drilling caused it to sheer and split. on the soft wood one the was a little more play but it was so wafer thin after sanding out you could squeeze it and get it to crack. myself and 2 other joiners worked on this and came to the conclusion that it just isnt viable . the way to do it is to make them from scratch 10mm thicker than originals, but unless there is an order of about 20-30 at a time it isnt worth the time and effort calibrating the machines. the time and effort involved for making a couple would mean they would cost about 160 quid each to make it worth while. sorry.

 
Posted : 13/02/2009 11:56 am
Pete_59
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the way to do it is to make them from scratch 10mm thicker than originals, but unless there is an order of about 20-30 at a time it isnt worth the time and effort calibrating the machines. the time and effort involved for making a couple would mean they would cost about 160 quid each to make it worth while. sorry.

If you could get an order for 20+ what sort of cost would you be looking at? If it's reasonable enough I think there's a lot of people on this forum who'd like one, including me :good: keep in mind that an M14 real wood stock would cost £100+ so I think you could get a lot of takers.

Also you could approach Warren to see if he'd be interested in offering his customs garands with a wood option.



 
Posted : 13/02/2009 5:45 pm
biguk
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Yeah my wood M14 stock cost me £120. Though it is very nice.

 
Posted : 13/02/2009 7:19 pm
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i will have a word with the owner of the workshop, but you have to bear in mind that it will be when he isnt using his machines, he has to make a living.

 
Posted : 13/02/2009 7:21 pm
Steiner
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It's difficult to convert a real stock to incorporate the M14.


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Posted : 14/02/2009 2:41 pm
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the thing is, RS stocks were never made to take airsoft M14's, only garands. it does make sense to to make them from scratch, rather than try and overcome the problems. we have saying in yorkshire " tha cant meck a gudun out o a badun" and in this case its true, the motor is in completely the wrong place and at the wrong angle to make it work. by the time you have machined a thicker korean era stock out( carefully) you might have well have spent that time doing something that is easier, less trouble and custom made to fit. like i said in the other post, it can be done, but you wouldnt want to pay for something that you couldnt completely trust. the chances are the M14 wood stocks are drilled for the motor first, then machined to shape, getting rid of the problem of working in a very narrow neck in an awkward position.

 
Posted : 14/02/2009 5:17 pm
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the thing is, RS stocks were never made to take airsoft M14's, only garands. it does make sense to to make them from scratch, rather than try and overcome the problems. we have saying in yorkshire " tha cant meck a gudun out o a badun" and in this case its true, the motor is in completely the wrong place and at the wrong angle to make it work. by the time you have machined a thicker korean era stock out( carefully) you might have well have spent that time doing something that is easier, less trouble and custom made to fit. like i said in the other post, it can be done, but you wouldnt want to pay for something that you couldnt completely trust. the chances are the M14 wood stocks are drilled for the motor first, then machined to shape, getting rid of the problem of working in a very narrow neck in an awkward position.

What he said. :rofl: Any way with Airsoft world selling M14 stocks at £74 quid, that might be the way forward.


 
Posted : 14/02/2009 5:23 pm
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but..... the good news is, thompson wood furniture( with the exception of the pistol grip, which might need to be beefed up a bit) looks very doable.

 
Posted : 14/02/2009 5:28 pm
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Now that would be nice, I have the wood kit from china and it orange, really, really orange and I was lucky cos it was a good fit. So of them are appauling.


 
Posted : 14/02/2009 5:30 pm
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yeah i bought one , cant remember where from, but it was awfull so i sent it back and paid the extra 75 quid for a walnut one, its very nice, just getting it nicely weathered.

 
Posted : 14/02/2009 5:33 pm
biguk
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I've just managed to source a brand new M1 AEG stock, not an AZR stock. So once it arrives hopefully end next week, i'll stick a piccy up. Will come in dark Walnut so it will match the rest of my M1 wood work.

Exciting stuff!!!

 
Posted : 18/02/2009 7:58 pm
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