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(@rammix)
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does anyone know which colour wood stains to use on a K98 and which to avoid??

not too keen on staining the wrong colour then having to re-strip it all again :roll:

the stains I have here at the moment are made by Colron

American Walnut
Peruvian Mahogany
Antique Oak

(was thinking of using a light coat of the Peruvian which has a nice dark reddish tinge to it then the American walnut on top?)

I also have a tin of clear matt yacht varnish, but may use a different finish for them :?

cheers for your help chaps :good:

 
Posted : 25/01/2011 12:01 am
Boshman
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I'd go with the walnut.

I use Rustins Walnut wood Dye on all my K98's

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Posted : 25/01/2011 12:10 am
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:good: cheers

I have 2 stocks to stain, I think I read somewhere that there was a lighter version for late war period?? :?

Im thinking of doing one early and one late war

 
Posted : 25/01/2011 12:12 am
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Ive done one of these dboys (I assume?) stocks and I found that they are a bugger to get a uniform finish on because the wood seems to be quite soft.

Make sure you sand the stock all over starting with 120 grit working your way up to 400 grit, or thereabouts. Make sure you go over the whole thing twice with 400 grit or you will have rough parts which will absorb more stain and oil than the smoother parts and this will lead to streaky and blotchy finish.

Also water down the stain quite a bit if it is a water based stain (should you want to darken the stock considerably) and remember when you oil the stock after staining it will take it darker again.

I used a Birchwood casey gun finishing kit on my VSR conversion and I'm still not happy with the way it looks.

Second one down in the picture, thats just Tru oil. No stain.

I'm going to try again I think as I never sanded enough and its quite blotchy.

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Posted : 25/01/2011 8:53 am
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Like Boshman I used rustins walnut dye. However on mine it came out quite light, the wood seemed quite reluctant to take the dye, and it was very well sanded before I started. I guess you need to try a small area first. As for the finish I used danish oil, It gives a good finish, protects the wood and doesnt chip off like varnish.

 
Posted : 25/01/2011 10:03 am
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Like Boshman I used rustins walnut dye. However on mine it came out quite light, the wood seemed quite reluctant to take the dye, and it was very well sanded before I started. I guess you need to try a small area first. As for the finish I used danish oil, It gives a good finish, protects the wood and doesnt chip off like varnish.

Indeed. On the one I built for Steiner, it really didn't want to take the colour and came out quite light. On the one I am currently doing it has taken it beautifully and it has a lovely dark walnut colour! :?

It is some strange wood that Dboys use for their stocks!

“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
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Posted : 25/01/2011 10:14 am
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it may sound simple but many coats and really work it in ,a brush is no good you need to rub it in with a cloth.

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Posted : 25/01/2011 10:25 am
Boshman
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it may sound simple but many coats and really work it in ,a brush is no good you need to rub it in with a cloth.

Yes, I always apply with a rag. On Steiners it didn't matter how many coats I applied it just wouldn't take any more colour! It's possible it just needed sanding back even more but i certainly didn't skimp on that step. :?

“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 25/01/2011 10:49 am
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Yes, I always apply with a rag. On Steiners it didn't matter how many coats I applied it just wouldn't take any more colour! It's possible it just needed sanding back even more but i certainly didn't skimp on that step. :?

I think thats where I went wrong. I applied the stain with a brush & it seemed to really soak into parts that I hadnt taken the time to sand properly with finer grit. Like they were more porous/fibrous, and it looked hideous.

After that I decided to strip it back again and just use oil to finish.

As you can see from my picture it actually looks quite dodgy compared to the blonde Tanaka G33/40 above it.

It seems like an easy job especially after putting the thing together - like putting the cherry on the cake (?) - but it must take loads of elbow grease and waiting around to do right.

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Posted : 25/01/2011 1:32 pm
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some great info and tips :good:

hopefully it helps other people doing there K98's as well :good:

 
Posted : 25/01/2011 9:25 pm
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