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webby
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Got all my stuff packed up and ready to go.

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In the main compartment I have my sleeping bag, spare clothes in a dry bag (US HBTs and a wooly Jumper) will have my socks and food in there too. The large horizontally orientated pouch across the outside back I have 2no. 1.5litre bottles of water in there for refilling my canteens. Each of the side pockets has a spare canteen in which will be full. On the outside attached the the straps I have my Marine Poncho, US shelter half, Brit army Entrenching tool, my US airborne drop down rope (which is like parachord and about 25 feet long) and various different diameter ropes in 2 foot lengths for utility. I also have my axe tethered to some of the ancilliary loops on the back of the bergan.

I also have my high standard attached to one of the buckles on the side for ease of access.

My belt rig consists of the following.

Belt, pisol holster, my Marine KA-BAR (sharp utility knife) cross straps, water bottle and a british small pack (on hip). The small pack contains a spare water canteen, cooking related items, snacks and ammo etc.

Any suggestions about alterations would be very welcome :)

 
Posted : 28/06/2010 8:34 am
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OK, it's worth discussing who's bringing e-tools, axes, folding saws and other kit that's not essential for us all to carry.

Would be nice to have an e-tool, cutting tool, lighting equipment and a blade per Jed team. Preferably a blade per person.



 
Posted : 28/06/2010 9:09 am
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Rattle test it mate, mine doesnt make a sound, pack out mess tins etc with socks. Ive even cut small pieces of foam to pack out things like cooking equipment, spoons etc.
Put all your non essential kit at the bottom (as you said , sleeping bag , dry kit etc)
Above all make sure its comfortable, if its on a frame you should be ok, but since you could be tabbing a long way with it on you really dont want to be stopping coz your shoulders hurt or your spoon is digging into your spine.
Im also not too sure about those ropes you have hanging , looks like something to get snagged to me , but hey its personal choice.
Glad to see someone else is looking forward to this as much as i am , my kit has been packed and unpacked atleast 15 times to familiarise myself with load out and to help me loose non essentials. Mind you its also been in the shed fully ready for 2 weeks lol.
Can't wait

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Posted : 28/06/2010 9:10 am
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Yes, the ropes are snaggle-tastic. From the training day I also noticed that people had put heavier items at the bottom or towards the rear of their bergen. This tip you back more. If it makes sense for accessibility, try to pack heavier items close to your back and shoulders.



 
Posted : 28/06/2010 9:14 am
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Yeah nothing rattles at the moment, but nothing a few well placed pieces of bubble-wrap/foam might help.

I can put the ties on the inside, I was thinking for ease of access, but I guess they could be less-dangly.

The bergan does have the metal frame, and is quite comfortable, I naturally lean forward in my stance anyway (footballers legs) so the pack sets my centre of balance a bit better.

E-tool is really for toiletries duty, if we were to be doing any proper digging I would bring my Yank one! :)

 
Posted : 28/06/2010 9:25 am
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yeah the heavier stuff should be the things you tend to need most so should be at the top..like extra water...probably the heaviest thing you will be carrying and batteries , ammo etc. Its best to practice wearing your kit before a game like this, can save you a whole heap of problems on the day. Things like laying down and getting back up seem simple but try it with a heavy bergen with things hanging off it...not so simple if you have things packed all wrong, like a shovel can prevent you rolling over ...you get the idea.
Poor preparation leads to piss poor soldiering..

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Posted : 28/06/2010 9:27 am
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Yur, luckily I have played a few 24 hour games humping a large British army bergan around, so shouldnt be too bad! :)

 
Posted : 28/06/2010 9:31 am
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OK, it's worth discussing who's bringing e-tools, axes, folding saws and other kit that's not essential for us all to carry.

Would be nice to have an e-tool, cutting tool, lighting equipment and a blade per Jed team. Preferably a blade per person.

I have a sharp knife.


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Posted : 28/06/2010 4:04 pm
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OK, I'm pretty much finalised, after weeks of playing around.

Large pack, containing: sleeping bag (in bin liner), food, wetwipes, 3 litres water, rope. Attached on outside: Brit cape / groundsheet thingy, two Zeltbahns buttoned together for my shelter, messtins containing a cup, matches, Esbit stove and fuel, all wrapped in a toque to stop the rattling.

Belt order: canteen (another litre), knife in bayonet frog, two mag pouches, containing magazines, speedloader, torch and two grenades.

Denison pockets - snacks, spoon, notepad & pencil, whistle, compass, medic bandage, worry beads (or whatever they're called!), pair of gloves, another grenade, thermals for sleeping in. Everything that needs to be waterproof is wrapped in nappy sacks - absolutely ideal.

Trouser pockets: two packets of tissues, toque, small first aid kit, spare socks.

Lessons learned on training day: no sling on Thompson, removed small pack from belt kit and distributed its contents in large pack and pockets, no pistol, enabling me to put the canteen on the belt kit, rather than on a strap across my shoulder, which got tangled up when crawling through undergrowth.


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Posted : 28/06/2010 5:07 pm
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To save humping around loads of ponchos, ipk's, zelt's, etc, for individual shelters, if you double up with each other and sleep 2 to a shelter, you only need to carry 1 each.



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Posted : 28/06/2010 5:38 pm
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That's why I'm taking my poncho as a shelter. Dual use.

In case the weather gets really iffy I'll stash a decent size tarp with the SAS too, so we can always grab that if necessary.



 
Posted : 28/06/2010 6:07 pm
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just found something really cool.......

check out this , i think its pretty awesome ...not sure if it belongs in this particular thread but hey ...its COOL!

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Posted : 02/07/2010 11:02 am
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for individual shelters, if you double up with each other and sleep 2 to a shelter, you only need to carry 1 each.

We'll have none of your Continental customs in Team Frederick, thanks very much. Each man will carry his own thunderbox.

 
Posted : 02/07/2010 4:56 pm
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OK folks. For final check of kit it's worth perusing the following excellent post made by Heide:

Bergen & Contents

Belt Kit

Smock Contents



 
Posted : 05/07/2010 2:59 pm
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I'm trying to find a cork for burning, but all the bottles of reasonably priced wine I've looked at have plastic corks or screw tops. Anyone bringing one?! :slap:



 
Posted : 07/07/2010 7:22 pm
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I've got at least 1. If I can't find another one for you, I'll just cut the one I have in half.



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Posted : 07/07/2010 7:23 pm
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:good:

I blame the Portuguese.



 
Posted : 07/07/2010 7:41 pm
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got cam cream...corks are easily lost and hence very hard to find...plus cam cream keeps bugs away

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Posted : 07/07/2010 7:43 pm
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I've got cam cream, but I just hate the messiness of it. Especially when using safety glasses with prescription inserts, you just sweat the cream all over them.



 
Posted : 07/07/2010 7:48 pm
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I think I've got a few knocking about so i'll bring some spares. Stu is your cam cream the set with the little mirror in it? I'll need a little mirror of some sort to do my contacts Sunday morning.

 
Posted : 07/07/2010 8:31 pm
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