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Due to a recent shift at home, i have changed from German, to British. But i intend to stick with the combat engineer style

This is what i intend to get for a 'basic' impression

Maroon Beret
Dutch D.B Jacket ( OR Belgian para smock)
49 patt trousers
Belt (brass fittings)
44 patt L Straps (x2)
Mk2 Ammo pouches
Small Pack
Large pack

After i get that basic lookout i might try get the following:

Water Bottle
Entrenching Tool
Skrim Scarf
Shoulder boards

now i know theres bound to be countless problems with it, but this is just going to be basic playing at normal sights, so i think this should be good enough. Although as im going for an engineer look, im guessing i might need more pouches and things like that?

Cheers :good:

Rob


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Posted : 30/04/2009 8:23 pm
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Allrighty...

This is what i intend to get for a 'basic' impression

Maroon Beret
Dutch D.B Jacket ( OR Belgian para smock)
49 patt trousers

Weirdly you might be better of ringing sabre up, they have a stockload of canadian BD in at the moment... much better than 49 pat or dutch.

Dont get a belgian para smock, you're just wasting £30 odd quid, save up and get a good repro denny, you only need to buy one, it shoudl last you for ever and buy it big enough to grow into it.

Belt (brass fittings)

44 patt L Straps (x2)

Dont buy 44 pattern, you want 37 pattern. 44 pattern never saw wartime service in any quantity above trials and then only in the far east and the last days of the fight against japan. In europe 37 pattern was used up to the 60s.

Mk2 Ammo pouches

Get MKIII with a popper fastening, MKII are not long enough for mp40 and sten mags.

Small Pack

Large pack

You dont need this, it was left on unit transport and only used for marching from garrison to garrison or other staging areas...

After i get that basic lookout i might try get the following:

Water Bottle

Far more essential than a large pack

Entrenching Tool

Again you will never use this in airsoft games, put the money to a good denison.

Skrim Scarf

Shoulder boards

What on earth are 'shoulder boards' you dont need these whatever they are

now i know theres bound to be countless problems with it, but this is just going to be basic playing at normal sights, so i think this should be good enough. Although as im going for an engineer look, im guessing i might need more pouches and things like that?

Engineers dont require any special pouches other than extra small packs for satchel charges, you might want a wirecutter pouch. There is no specialist assault engineer webbing that i can think of.





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Posted : 30/04/2009 8:45 pm
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[edit] - Damn experts beating me to it, that's just not sporting. Still, I've typed it now so I will damn well post it and the devil take the consequences . :evil: :P

There are experts, and they will arrive in due course. However until they do I will offer my tuppence worth.

Shoulder boards? Unless I am an idiot, and it has been known, there are no shoulder boards on any British impression.

A water bottle will be more use before the packs I think, and you will require the cross straps for the ammo pouches - best to check out the recommended kit in any of the British sections as they are really useful when all these types of straps get twisted in ones mind.

Combat engineer? that's an odd one I don't really associate with the British that much. Battalion pioneers maybe? or perhaps I am just blinded by the Flames of War army listings. :? Regardless though there are Airborne engineers (again from Flames of War - God my research into Paras needs a kick in the quality control :whistle: ) I would think that the standard battledress would be better - particularly with a leather jerkin. Plus you can wear it for anything, not just engineer. Thus ditch the para beret for a GS cap or some such.


 
Posted : 30/04/2009 8:48 pm
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sorry, i dont mean shoulder boards, i meant shoulder insignia, red arch with white regiment name on them

ok, like i said i knew there would be countless problems with what i chose, dont suppose you have any links to any of the items you stated??

Cheers :good:

Rob


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Posted : 30/04/2009 8:51 pm
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Buy this:

DMS boots (ammo boots are more expensive and less practical for most sites.

BD from sabre or repro BD from spearhead. Or as an engineer denims would be equally appropriate.

Beret from WPG

Get the following webbing from Sabre Sales. As k for brass popper fastenings on stuff, do not get tab fastening mkiii pouches:
Belt, 2 x braces, 2 x basic pouch MKiII popper, skeleton holder and water bottle, small pack, L straps, anklets

Thats a more suitable basic impression that lets you build on it.

Costing:

Boots £15 (sabre)
BD £20 - £100 depending on which option you go for
Beret £10 - £15 (towards the latter with RE cap badge)
Webbing £30

Buy it right once and it will last you for life, buy stop gaps and i *gurantee* you will be listing it as 'for sale' in a year when its no longer right enough for you.

You really need the BD and the basic musketry order webbing more than anything... if you're set on a denison then dont buy the BD jacket (saving yourself £10 - £50) and dont buy the large pack or entrenching tool (again saving £20 - £30).. The money saved puts you more than halfway towards a very good denny from SOF... and you want the half zip type there.

Hope that helps.





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Posted : 30/04/2009 8:53 pm
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I'm making an assumption here that you want to portray a member of the royal engineers who is assigned to an airborne division?

If so the insignia alone on your BD will cost you about £50 if you want to do it right (2x 'royal engineers', 2 x pegasus, 2 x 'airborne' tabs, jump wings or glider badge)

Again money better spent on a good denison, with a good denison no one will notice what trousers you have on TBH

Best bit about the denison is that it has no insignia on it other than rank and para wings. You're *never* going to game in BD and denny trust me, its far too hot.

If you dont want to do airborne the wladeks advice is sound, GS cap rather than maroon beret and a leather jerkin woudl be good.

http://www.sabresales.co.uk/
http://sofmilitary.co.uk

google is your friend!





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Posted : 30/04/2009 8:58 pm
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hmm, well i think i better re think this, but im probably going to do an infantry of the line (might not be as expensive)

on SoF iv found "1937 MK3 web set" which has:

1937 web belt,
2 x Mk3 ammo pouches,
2 x Cross straps,
1 x waterbottle
1 x waterbottle skeleton cover,
1 x small pack
2 x L straps.

£60 though, bit pricey?? and i hear a rumor that SoF isnt that good quality


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Posted : 30/04/2009 9:03 pm
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All suppliers have good stuff and overpriced stuff.

DO NOT buy your webbing form SoF

Get stuff form the suppliers i've recommended.

SoF do however do the best dension for a reasonable price (half zip @ £99)

There is no one stop shop i'm afraid you have to research get advice and shop around.

Get your webbing at sabre sales. it will cost you bugger all.

Example.
On saturday i bought a wwii russian side cap, a 1970s russian boonie hat, an wwii uk e-tool helve, puttees, anklets, 1950s uk jungle boots, wwii uk bayonet frog, wwii us leggings and a few other bits and bobs for about £35!!

That would have cost me over a £100 anywhere else (the boots alone are worth about £50)

I've recommned those suppliers to you as the cheapest options in five or six years of collecting.





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Posted : 30/04/2009 9:08 pm
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hmm, well i think i better re think this, but im probably going to do an infantry of the line (might not be as expensive)

(edit some webbing)

£60 though, bit pricey?? and i hear a rumor that SoF isnt that good quality

Swings and roundabouts. Personally I think a airborne impression is less pricy.

Line inf means you *must* have a BD jacket (you dont necessarily need insignia but more importantly you *must* have either MKII helmet or a GS cap, both of these are far more expensive than a beret.

SOF webbing is all issue stuff , its exactly the same quality as any other war dated webbing, its their reprowebbing that folk debate the quality of.

It is however twice as much as sabre willl charge you for the same ammount.

My advice... hit the library, have a good think about what you want to do (brit, yank, german, russian etc), sit on it for a week, go back to the library when you know what you want to do, choose a picture that out of the hundreds you will have seen by now looks 'typical' of the impression you want to do and then find it online... stick the pic up here and we can tell you what kit you need and where to get it from.

For a quick fix, read the kit guides in the pull down menus above or better still buy back issues of Airsoft International mag and read all my lovley articles on collecting brit kit!

:)
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Posted : 30/04/2009 9:14 pm
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hmmm, thats some sound thinking gadge

of course theres COUNTLESS things i would like to do, but im only 15, so moneys a bit tight.

il get back to you on this one :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

Cheers :good:


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Posted : 30/04/2009 9:18 pm
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Honestly its a big investment for anyone regardless of age so all the better for really having a good think about it.

I'm a bugger for impulse buying! I always regret it after too...





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Posted : 30/04/2009 9:26 pm
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like gadge said, it makes sence if your on a budget to buy right first time. the amount of crap i have wasted money on thinking it would do, then had to spend again because the first stuff was crap.


 
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