Just to let you know that Dave has been arrested with will probably mean no kit coming from his direction for Jedburgh.
I hung on until today before telling you until I knew it might affect CiA. Dave was arrested Tuesday last week and taken into custody. His wife said they even had the bomb squad round to his house - but I imagine this was because they did a search, plod found 'guns', the fire arms people found 'bullets & grenades' and called the bomb squad in - usual over-reaction.
They have taken everything - vehicles and all kit. Now then, I'm pretty sure that his charge is nothing to do with guns or explosives, and that removal of stuff is an indirect consequence of searches and investigation. He was in court today and remanded in custody until 28th May, I guess to allow further investigation. The fact that he was remanded I suppose shows that this is a serious investigation but I'm no expert of why remand is used over bail - others in CiA are more knowledgeable in this area! I'm afraid I don't know what the charge was but it was in a Nottingham court, I guess the Magistrates court.
He does have previous, a three year sentence in 2006, apparently as part of a chain passing information from two bent coppers to criminals. I'd give you the links but I'm sure you can google it if you are interested. I have no idea whether this is related in any way to the current goings on. I hope not.
The 16th boys were off to Krakow this weekend - Keith, Dell, Milf and Trev are still going but John has dropped out (and I couldn't afford the time or cash). The five reenactment events this year look to be up the spout, let alone losing vehicles at Jed.
Anyhoo, I'll let you know more when I get info. I'd appreciate not discussing this beyond us five - it might be something of nothing and I wouldn't like to pre-judge or jeopardise relationships at this stage.

Holy shit.
Regarding remand, the following is a brief list of why people get remand not bail.
1: Violent crimes (and I aint talking Battery or Assault - i'm talking ABH & GBH)
2: Risk of absconding is high
3: His brief fucked the Judiciary off (surprisingly common, its a "fuck you" to his solicitor from the Bench)
4: Risk of defendant going after witnesses
As to the bomb squad being called in, thats SOP in the case of *any* ordnance. With regards to vehicles being taken, thats an odd one. They would normally only take vehicles if dodgy (stolen etc etc), if being used as evidence by the prosecution, or as part of the Proceeds of Crime Act.

















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He had of course got flight tickets etc for the Krakow trip this weekend to it might have been a factor - as there may be a perceived risk that he may vanish once abroad?

Christ almighty!
His wife's expecting too isn't she?
Speculating, I should think it's something to do with his line of work.

























Well, the Magistrates Court would remand him, then the case would be heard at Crown Court if it's an indictable offence.
Crown Court is both good and bad.
The good is that conviction rates are lower than Magistrates Court. The bad is that if it's a Jury job (99.9% are - only ones that aren't are if there is a possibility of Jury nobbling) you can be fucking sure that the prosecution will do a hatchet job on the bloke (re-enacting Waffen SS brought up in passing when talking about the "character of the defendant" etc etc)
Either way, being remanded is not a good sign.
He had of course got flight tickets etc for the Krakow trip this weekend to it might have been a factor - as there may be a perceived risk that he may vanish once abroad?
It's quite possible. It's happened a fair few times before - I know one person who was remanded because of a similar situation a few years ago.

















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Also a lot of those charged under the Terrorism Act are held on remand as standard. Just depends what he's charged for. One should be able to find out if he's been to court.
BTW, a three year sentence in 2006? He can't have been in for long!

























Christ almighty!
His wife's expecting too isn't she?
Speculating, I should think it's something to do with his line of work.
Not now, had the baby in January. The poor woman is going to be having a rough time at the moment. ![]()

Also a lot of those charged under the Terrorism Act are held on remand as standard. Just depends what he's charged for. One should be able to find out if he's been to court.
BTW, a three year sentence in 2006? He can't have been in for long!
He popped up on our scene after halfway through 2008 IIRC - Doughboys training day. I guess he only did half of his time as seems to be the norm.
I can't mind anything about current workload on the net - it does say cases through Mag. court are too quick and numerous to list. Someone inside the court system must be able to access databases I would have thought though. Either that or a personal visit.
Anyhoo, I'll know the full SP when Keith gets back from Krakow and has extracted info from Gaz!

Looks like his first event was TEHL in March 08.

























He, I don't remember him there!
He did the training day we did with Stubblehopper at Matlock Jan 2008 too!

I'll have a mooch on the computer at work tomorrow, you never know, he might be in my jail. If he is, he'll be on the second stage induction wing. If anyone wants to visit him, wherever he is, remand prisoners get more visits than sentenced ones. Dave would need to put you on his "approved" visitors list first, via application. You are then vetted and you need at least 2 forms of photo ID when you arrive at the jail after booking your visiting order. Most jails let you book visits online these days. I couldn't go to see him, because I'm a serving Prison Officer.
Jay is spot on for the reasons why someone is remanded in custody. If Dave has previous and is still on licence, they'd drag him back to jail without blinking.


























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Heh, I won't be visiting, I'd feel like a crim myself! Anyway, I don't have a shell suit. ![]()

I checked today and, he's not in Winson Green. (Amazing I got the chance, as we had a hanging death, 2 assaults, 1 planned removal and a food refusal today! Just another boring day in the Prison Service
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Thank you for checking. I'm sure no one has told Josh yet. I'll wait for the lads to get back from Krakow and we'll discuss what to do - I'll have to contact the two May reenactment venues 'cos that ain't going to happen, regardless of outcome...

Thank you for checking. I'm sure no one has told Josh yet. I'll wait for the lads to get back from Krakow and we'll discuss what to do - I'll have to contact the two May reenactment venues 'cos that ain't going to happen, regardless of outcome...
No problem. I consider Dave a mate and not a con'. You never know, he may be out by May, if the court doesn't send him down to finish his original sentence. If they do, at least time served on remand counts towards the time he'll have to serve. If they send him to my jail to finish his sentence, I'll get him moved onto my wing and I'll do my best to look after him.


























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This is as much as I know:
Dave is at Wakefield. His wife hasn't been to see him yet and is going through the rigmarole of photos/id/permission that Pete outlined above.
I still don't know what the charge was.
His wife says the magistrate wanted to bail him but the police objected, the magistrate relented and gave them 4 weeks to come up with evidence else he will be released. She says it is to do with the police wanting to know where he has got all the money from and that they have got values wrong (valued a bike at £90,000 whereas the pair of them cost £6,000 etc). The police came once to have a look around under warrant and arrested him, came back a second time with specialists to check out weapons/ordnance, then two more times to remove everything.
Now, the above is what he has told his wife - clearly he isn't going to say I've been a bad boy and I'm in the shit and I won't be home for a few years. Equally the above might be exactly what is going on, so I'm resisting pre-judging or leaping to conclusions or speculating on the worst scenario.
However, as far as I know the police wouldn't arrest anyone, impound goods, remand someone etc speculatively 'just to see what they can find'. In other words, detective work must have been undertaken and an internal case made for the amount of police time and effort expended. And I have a suspicion Wakefield is a high security gaol - if it is I don't know if it is relevant to remand prisoners, perhaps they just go to where there is room?

Question that may or may not have any relevance, but is he an AFRA member? He hasn't applied via CiA.

























Wakefield is definitely not a soft jail to be in! I suspect Dave is there in it's role as a "dispersal" jail, rather than in it's high security role. It's unusual for them to take remand prisoners. Dave definitely isn't category "A" material.
From HMP website
Reception criteria: Prisoners serving over five years primarily for sexual offences or those who have previously committed sexual offences. Preferably those prisoners who are willing to participate in offence-focused treatment activities.
I'm fairly sure Dave doesn't fit that criteria and is there until a place at Nottingham presents itself (it's only 600 spaces or so). He may yet end up at Winson Green, as it's twice the size of Wakefield (we have almost 1500) and we house remand, sentenced and unsentenced prisoners.


























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Yes, Dave is an AFRA member as are all of the 16th.
Thanks for the info Pete!

Point by point - cos i can't be bothered to form a decent paragraph after a day of putting together a presentation on legislation regarding consent (medical, not what you lot are thinking
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1: If the Mag wanted to bail him, but plod objected, then its not going to be a serious violent crime.
2: Plod are very careful about "fishing trips" these days per se - it's got them into deep shit before now (and expensive, when the compensation for wrongful arrest and detention have been paid out - not to mention the various parts of the HRA 1998 that Plod can be sued for compensation under - Articles 5, 7 & 8 to start with)
3: "police wanting to know where he has got all the money from" is an interesting one. HMR&C do this on ocassion - and with them fuckers you're guilty until proven innocent. Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 could be another possibility as well. POCA is a very nasty bit of legislation as you can have your cash and posessions made subject of a seizure order even if not convicted of a criminal act
Yes, you read that right. You could walk out of court a free man after a Not Guilty verdict, and you could still have your assests and possessions seized.
And it gets better.
Burden of proof is reversed. It's not up to Plod to prove that those assest and possessions are as a result of criminal activity - its up to you to prove that they weren't!
Welcome to the world of Nu Arbeit.....
As to kit being over valued, that doesnt surprise me - however, on the plus side, all the defence have to do is prove that the expert used by Plod is incompetent and the rest of the case is immediately put in doubt (the old "well, they fucked that up, what else did they screw up on?" logic)

















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