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Spoke to him to day to get a better understanding of where it was going . Apparently the "feed thing" is not a case of re directing , but more copying what gets picked up on search engines from our website and the forum, and copying them into his website, if I understand correctly this means type in KAR 98 for example and you'll get the forum, our website and his , not just his website. TBH the hit rate on the webiste is not an issue , it's fuckers who want ot come and play in the woods that counts for me . If his website attracts new people to events or to the forum , the mechanism is not important .

He was adamant it wasn't about bringing this place to a gentle close , I'll go with that for now . He also said it wasn't being set up per se as a commercial venture , although might consider paid advertising in the future .

He's going to lift some of the stuff from our website....the kit guides he wrote etc and move them onto the new website , not particularly arsed about this , it's his IP at the end of the day, and none of us plan of doing web design as a hobby. Pictures of Gadge looking like a twonk are better off elsewhere IMHO :rofl: ]

I think we ought to make clear though that pics from our events are ok as long as they are identifed as CiA events. Looks like Gunman is cosying up big style as he can smell the chance for more "bums on seats" ( eurgh I almost feel sorry for CW), I wouldn't like that cock getting financial benefit from pictures of our events. Equally as we have put on more events and for longer than anyone else, having no representation at all would be a lil silly. Lets see what gets posted up .

Finally as it looks like we won't get back control of the CiA forum , I suggested he might consider discussing with us the idea of renaming it. don't know how you guys feel about this, but with the top five posters being David, Yith, Gadge, Steiner and only Stephen from us, there's a part of me that says let em call it something else , then at least all the stuff they post isn't assumed by new people to be "the word of CiA" .
WW2 Arsoft Community Forum would give a nice acronym :rofl:

Your thoughts appreciated.


 
Posted : 08/06/2011 8:23 pm
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TBH, I'm all a bit 'meh' about airsoft website/forum things at the moment. I'm happy to offer simple assistance on David's new site as I've offered and will continue to contribute to the CiA forum where I can.

I'm happy for you guys to decide things on my behalf and I trust your judgments on it.

My only proviso is that I don't feel it's necessary to fall out over anything this trivial, so let's keep things civil.

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Posted : 08/06/2011 8:42 pm
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I don't see any reason for any falling out or arguments over it. Anything that brings in new players can only be good. As you say Guy, our track record is second to none and gunman can suck up as much as he wants, we have our "crowd", he has his and long may it remain so.

It wouldn't be hard to do new, updated kit guides anyway, or just replace the ones with the uber walt in them. Will David still be doing updates to this website/forum? Such as updating the events headlines at the top of the page?




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Posted : 08/06/2011 9:26 pm
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I have no problems with what's been said.

As to the kit guides, some of them definitely need updating - mind you, its *ages* since I wrote the spiel for the 9th SS one :lol:


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Posted : 08/06/2011 9:44 pm
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No , I don't think we need to fall out anymore or have big fits. More sorting out an amicable divorce and practicalities ( I have plenty practice :rofl: )

I believe David will still be updating the forum , dunno about our website so much (by negotiation I'm assuming) , kit guides & other info stuff will be on his new website, and plenty of people seem to want to contribute so no too bothered about adding anything personally ( assuming anything we have to add is wanted as well, which might be a big assume ).

My personal concern is more about us maintaining a presence on here and on any replacement portal put up . As you said the other night Pete , plenty of people would like to see CiA in the grave, just want to be sure we don't end up there by lack of action/care on our part .


 
Posted : 08/06/2011 10:24 pm
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Yes, I'll run the new CiA website and update it when needed, which will be basically adding new events and moving and updating past events.
Kit guides will go to the new site and be finalised/updated - I have a new US one to add which I will get round to.

I'll add CiA events to the new portal website along with everyone else's, so just keep generating the publicity.

The forum will continue as it is pretty much as it is, innovating where I can, maintenance on a daily basis. The forum will still be vital and the new website in no way diminishes it, in fact very much enhances it. It is just another tool to get (and keep) people interested.

I'll keep the CiA private section open but if you wish to do private chatting elsewhere that's fine, just let me know and I'll lock it up and tuck it away.

Guy expressed a concern about CiA's presence on this forum and on the new website will be diminished. All I can say is that it is entirely in your own hands. You could look on it as an opportunity and take advantage - or not!


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 10:40 am
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:good:

Sounds like a good plan, and an excellent way to finally make a more defined CiA as far as event organisation is concerned!




 
Posted : 09/06/2011 11:28 am
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Well, thats 7 phonecalls I've had this morning saying "what the fuck has happened to the website?"


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Posted : 09/06/2011 11:29 am
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Well, thats 7 phonecalls I've had this morning saying "what the feck has happened to the website?"

Huh? I can't see anything different.




 
Posted : 09/06/2011 11:31 am
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http://www.ww2airsoft.org.uk/


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Posted : 09/06/2011 11:33 am
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Well, thats 7 phonecalls I've had this morning saying "what the feck has happened to the website?"

Those will be people who can't read then?

By the way, a lot of people offering to contribute articles to the website, which is nice.


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 11:36 am
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Oh yeah. I checked by clicking on the home button at the top, but that now links to: http://www.comrades-in-arms.co.uk/

I assume it's a redirection problem or ISP migration issue....




 
Posted : 09/06/2011 11:39 am
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Ah, Dave posted while I was writing.

Sorry Dave, can't read what? I must have missed something somewhere.

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Posted : 09/06/2011 11:41 am
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I've already said all this on the forum!!

No, no problem at all. I have moved the CiA website to it's own URL and server, the links at the top of the forum all point there now, for the time being.

In the meantime, the new CMS website is being built in the original ww2airsoft.org.uk domain and this will look a mess as it is being built and populated. Most importantly, despite the disruption, Comrades in Arms has a fully functioning website and public presence.

There is no particular reason for people to use the root ww2airsoft.org.uk URL anyway - the CiA website never changed from one month to another, what they should be doing is going direct to the forum. Meh.


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 11:49 am
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:slap: Yes, sorry I read that thread straight after posting.

Bit odd to change it before the new website's ready though, as people clearly used that address or had it bookmarked.

Would it be worth putting a clearer holding page for those that haven't noticed the thread on the forum yet?




 
Posted : 09/06/2011 11:51 am
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Actually, thinking about it, if people have only ever bookmarked ww2airsoft.org.uk they won't know how to get to the forum directly using: index.php

I guess they might think to put in comrades-in-arm.co.uk, but not necessarily with hyphens.

It's not a surprise that people have been calling to find out what the problem is. They might not be able to get to the forum via a URL in the first place to be able to read Dave's update.

Google is obviously a good answer, however, putting in WW2 Airsoft points to the Continuum site....although it also shows the forum as the second result. Putting in Comrades in Arms brings up ww2airsoft.org.uk or points to http://www.comradesinarms.co.uk/ - no results for our hyphenated version.

This clearly won't be a problem in the future, but right now is definitely a bit confusing for folks.




 
Posted : 09/06/2011 12:16 pm
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Heh, what are you talking about!

On both the CiA and the 'new' website there are menu links to the forum, just as before. It's just the content of the new site that is different just for the moment. Makes no change to Google searches or anything - old bookmarks will still work.


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 12:39 pm
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I've cleared out all the extraneous stuff and placeholders, so it looks a bit less intimidating now...


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 12:59 pm
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That's better!

Before and after below for clarity of this whole conversation for those who didn't see it!

Dave, as I mentioned, searching for "Comrades in Arms" doesn't provide a result for "comrades-in-arms.co.uk" at all, but actually provides the top result for "ww2airsoft.org.uk". Is that something that will change as the Google URL pixies update their logs?-- attachment is not available ---- attachment is not available --




 
Posted : 09/06/2011 12:59 pm
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Yes, Google has indexed the site already and it just will be a matter of time before the domain gets on the first page.


 
Posted : 09/06/2011 1:15 pm
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