I've been tossing and turning in bed with arguments going round and round in my head. Couldn't get back to sleep so got up very early (and anyway I've got to be up to go to the KGSS thing 
) and decided to put thoughts into words.
What was doing my brain in? Gadge!
It came from irritation that in every other post on the new CiA specific section of the forum he mentions the exciting PBI games coming up. Bog off, this section is about CiA games not PBI, you have your own forum section as well as the run of the rest of the forum. Not cricket.
This led me to how unfantastic I thought his previous game was and how markedly different CiA's approach is. I didn't enjoy Varsity at all - it took me right back to the open day games I used to play at F&O in Gucci's day. Gucci's style was a good story line that made an open day seem a continuous event instead of several disjointed games. However, in a WW2 context Gadge's Varsity had zero 'feel' of real fighting, no atmosphere. Shoot a bit, go back to the cars for a reload. Shoot a bit, go back to the cars for a reload. Shoot a bit, go back to the cars for a reload. Very undemanding mentally and physically. And the reason is because Gadge obsesses with detail and fails with the big plan. Take Arnhem, in which Gadge and Yith largely planned. At the meetings they obsessed about the Brit's opening fifteen minutes but gave no thought as to how the game would run throughout the day, nor maximise the potential of the site (we didn't use half of it). Result was game stagnated (very badly) and the game ended with a kid stuck on a fence (which was a blessing in disguise).
CiA games are the opposite, I feel. Always with the big picture, always with scale, always with mental challenges, always with physical challenges, always with tension, always with atmosphere. At Churchill's for the second time ever in airsoft I really felt 'there'. At Eagle the tension in the US camp for the first hour when they had no weapons but knew something was going to crack off. The terror at UCAP when you faced darkness and had no idea whether you were walking towards your death. The pain of the first battle at Husky when we were fighting up a vicious hill and the sweet coordination between allied commanders to achieve a single aim. The fear at Bryansk of driving down a single track knowing that at any minute be could be blown to smithereens or shot to bits.
For the record, I doubt I will be going to any of the PBI stuff in 2009. I don't feel obliged to 'support' stuff for the benefit of promoting WW2 anymore, after two years it should have it's own momentum (or die!) and I don't like the Grange Farm site and I don't like the PBI itty-bitty game style. Yith is all for authenticity but not if his uniform gets dirty or it rains and Gadge is physically incapable of playing for even one day and should stick to painting plastic figures. Working as authentic squads just isn't airsoft where everything is 20th scale in terms of distance and time - airsoft isn't reenacting, it's real fighting without the dying bit.
Phew! That's off my mind now, onwards and upwards...
Heh! Good points all, but not worth losing sleep over Dave! There's no need to let CiA get to you that much!
If you want I'll send Gadge a PM and just ask him to keep his game discussion to his PBI forum, "If we let one do it we have to let all"....and all that guff.
BTW, what the hell did he and Rich say to you to make you take a week out of it all!!?
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I've had Gadge on the phone twice this week. Both times i've finished the call thinking "why doesn't he get a fucking life - this is Airsoft, we do it for fun!"
The PBI game style doesn't interest me at all. I want to be out on the site for the whole day (apart from when I end up damaging myself lol) I have not attended a PBI game, and I do not want to either - the stop/start nature of it has no appeal. Like the pair of you, i'm getting annoyed with him basically spamming every thread on this place about PBI games. Would he like it if other organisers did it in the PBI forum? I think not.
Jesus H Christ. Just had a mental image of David with Gadge talking non stop in one ear, and Yith bellowing in the other. OUCH!
When we were a Kingdom it was run by a King
When we were an Empire it was run by an Empress
Now we're a country we're run by a..........
Yith - Bellowing! 
He does have a serious case of social dysfunction....
I didn't realise the PBI games stopped completely after the short games. I thought they were short missions which then paused in the field whilst players were redeployed and rebriefed about the outcome of the last mission and how the next mission was structured.
If it's back to the safe zone after every mission then surely it's just a SISK?!
I might have exaggerated slightly - to be honest I can remember very little about the Varsity game (apart from the utter crapness of the bunker Gadge was bigging up prior to the game). I'm sure we did go back to the cars to reload and have a drink, even if it wasn't at the end of every game!
A word from you Stephen to Gadge about spamming would be good, at least have the decency to keep it out of CiA thread!
Oh, Gadge and Yith. It was worse, Nigel was with them. Gadge was dragging his 'lady' around the fair trying to get her an ATS setup. Why? What use is that in a game? She was so clearly disinterested but didn't want to say so (I tried to make her get a nurses uniform instead 
) and she looked fine as she was - sort of 1940's tart, red lips and fur coat. And then I found out it wasn't Gadge buying her a uniform, he was getting her to pay for it.
And then there was the obsession and what exactly was the exact cloth the South Staffs put behind the beret badge. Like they cared in WW2, any bit of sacking would do surely!
But it was Yith who really ticked me off. I have taken great care to research the December game - it is exactly authentic to the area and units therein (OK, I've compressed about 15 sq miles into the gaming area). I chose the area so the Oxf and Bucks and Hohenstaufen and 82nd Airborne and FJ could play as in reality. Way back when I told Yith about the game he said he wasn't coming 'cos the Brits weren't at Battle of the Bulge. WTF, the Brits played a pivotal role at the closing stages. So I went to the trouble of building in a special role for the Brits (they will be playing separately to start with) and game a fulsome background story for those that didn't know. (Meh, why would you if you only go by Hollywood films?) So, Yith says OK he'll come then. So, on Saturday I asked him if he would be wearing his greatcoat, as a by-the-by question. Oh, Oxf and Bucks were part of an Airborne/landing div, they would only be wearing Dennisons. You tit Yith! There were no airborne parachute/glider landings at the Bulge. 6th Airborne were turned round from returning to UK and were trucked in, 101st Airborne were trucked in and 82nd Airborne were trucked in (reverting to their previous Infantry role). Hell, apart form a cocked up small FJ para drop even the FJ fought as Infantry. You see Yith, the Brits were pretty well supplied (they had been building up for a January assault on Germany before being distracted by Hitlers last fling) and it was f***ing cold and they would have worn the warmest clothing they could lay their hands on, Dennisons under greatcoats wouldn't be out of the question though. Oh Yith says, well I can see we will be having some forum discussions then because I don't think 6th Airborne had greatcoats on their kit list and we will see if anyone knows about British Airborne landings. Feck off Yith - I just told you! 
(For technical accuracy, there were glider landings at Bastogne who were guided in by parachuted pathfinders but this was bringing in supplies, not troops - and in any case nothing to do with this Northern sector scenario.)
Bugger me, I may be old but it could just be Yith I know more than you do!
And that's another thing! Gadge and Yith swan about like they are the oracles of WW2, and what they say is absolute and certaint. Stephen was doing it waaaay before them, I was doing it years before them, Jay was reenacting waaay before them.
When I was playing in Yank kit Yith was in Stargate shite and Gadge was titting about in Flecktarn!
Yith. In Stargate kit? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a tool!
Fuck 'em.
Gadge, Rich, Nigel? Polar opposite of this lot i'd say:
When we were a Kingdom it was run by a King
When we were an Empire it was run by an Empress
Now we're a country we're run by a..........
Yith's such a cock.
Anyone want to tell him that British officer's wouldn't have worn dress uniform at a field HQ???
PM on its way to Gadge.
Oh gents ...you've really made me laugh out loud ..thanks Jay for letting me know , it was worth logging on from NG for .
First off, David , you say in you first post how proud you are about our games ...I totally agree, and I'm glad you feel that way . We've put far too much effort into them , but at the end of the day if we didn't feel they were some of our better battles it would be a sad thing . I would suggest we do this for "our enjoyment", no other real reason so I'm happy to see that's a success.
Frankly if other people want to criticise or do their own thing , thats fine in my book . The day we don't sell out a game , thats it I'm off , no point doing it for no thanks .
As far as Gadge and Yith are concerned ...erm ....put bluntly they're both huge nerds . To a degree we are all a bit nerdy , however they seem quite unable to recognise or self limit it . The day we asked them to leave is the day this all became so much easier. They've gone , they are history, who gives a fuck what they think . As for choosing to spend time with them .....er ...yes . Sadly there's a few from the German camp who are headed that way as well .
TBH I see a lot of this as typical male behaviour in any group . Always have to have the biggest ,best,fastest, most accurate, most authentic * thing* whether its' motorbikes, cars, birds, or toy uniforms and guns. My gun is bigger than your gun ....I've seen it in so many clubs , societies (even supposed "right on" fuckers like Hunt Saboteurs) etc that if it weren't there I'd be amazed . I chose a fictional unit for my portrayal for a reason kids....
Final thought it is .....stop stretching yourself too thin . 4 games , maybe the odd other if it looks good . Doing it all is crazy , you will only get more pissed off as you seem to be now .
Peace from Burning Crucifix Land
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