Sumpftarn: Any good for Falschirmjaegers?

You're right that Sumpftarn was a late war camo, that was much rarer than Splittertarn. Kermit reckons that Splittertarn Fally smocks outnumbered Sumpftarn by about 10:1. It was introduced in '43 (quite distinct and blotchy) and changed in '44 (colours more subtle and merged).

They are a good and reliable company. I like the on-line stock guide, you can see what they have available right now.
The camo scrim I gave to the Brits at F&O came from these guys. If you need more they have more.
The Sumpfmuster smock looks to be the new generation Sturm/Mil-tec item. As such it's not perfect but it's not bad either, it's a nice print. Avoid the helmet cover and bandolieer in sumpf, not issue items. You can wear it for anything from mid '43 onward. Most people cant tell you if the sumpf pattern is correct never mind which variation it is.

Cheers guys! So the smock's ok, but not the bandolier or helmet cover. Since it's late war, and a rarely issued item to boot, would you suggest getting the more common Splinter (I forget the actual name) variant to start out with?

Personally I would (in fact I have) - but it's your choice. You can be the 1 in 10!

They are a good and reliable company. I like the on-line stock guide, you can see what they have available right now.
The camo scrim I gave to the Brits at F&O came from these guys. If you need more they have more.
The Sumpfmuster smock looks to be the new generation Sturm/Mil-tec item. As such it's not perfect but it's not bad either, it's a nice print. Avoid the helmet cover and bandolieer in sumpf, not issue items. You can wear it for anything from mid '43 onward. Most people cant tell you if the sumpf pattern is correct never mind which variation it is.

I hear a lot of people saying the Sumpf Para helmet covers were never made(maybe never official issue)but the one of the German Helmet bibles by Ludwig Baer shows pics of one from a collection.

Splinter pattern (Splittermuster / Splittertarn) is a much more widely used Army camo. If you're buying an FJ jump smock then beware of the the Splinter A vs Splinter B variations that a lot of people have fits about (although I still can't really see the difference).

Here is a good link for Reich and other world camouflage patterns:

http://www.kamouflage.net/country/00136.php

Cheers for that link BedsnHerts! Been looking for that site since I lost the last link I had

Hmm, looking at it I think I'll go with the sumpf since it has that uniqueness factor going for it Would it be odd to wear that Smock with a regular splinter helmet cover? Or would it probably be better to just cam up a plain helmet?

You could do - my latest FJ helmet camo was a layer of mud! Lots of photos of that.

Cool Cheaper than the cover, and locally available in plentiful colour options (as long as it's brown ) Cheers guys! I'm much obliged!

If you find the spare cash then you could wear a green or Splinter B helmet cover with your sumpf smock.

Because an item wasn't issued does not mean it did not exist. prototypes, examples, private purchase and field made are all possible ways for these items to appear. If Sumpf smocks are 1 in 10 these items are going to be 1 in 10,000.
The problem with bibles is that the prophets cant always agree, look at the 4 gospels in the King James edition, same idea. It's a similar situation with sumpf helmet covers for the army. One collector swears he has a factory made example found in a tunic or parka pocket. The other experts say where are the rest? It's better safe than sorry in the uniform game. If it's dubious, dont bother.

The problem with bibles is that the prophets cant always agree, look at the 4 gospels in the King James edition, same idea.

love the metaphor, I'll take your word for it!

If you find the spare cash then you could wear a green or Splinter B helmet cover with your sumpf smock.

Because an item wasn't issued does not mean it did not exist. prototypes, examples, private purchase and field made are all possible ways for these items to appear. If Sumpf smocks are 1 in 10 these items are going to be 1 in 10,000.
The problem with bibles is that the prophets cant always agree, look at the 4 gospels in the King James edition, same idea. It's a similar situation with sumpf helmet covers for the army. One collector swears he has a factory made example found in a tunic or parka pocket. The other experts say where are the rest? It's better safe than sorry in the uniform game. If it's dubious, dont bother.

Aye,but airsofting isnt reenacting so why not have a matching sumpf cover to go with your lovely new sumpf smock

I never mentioned re-enacting? In the time I've been watching and posting on this forum the standards have shot up. The idea to be all inclusive and not be picky is still there but human nature means that once the bug bites you are hooked. Once hooked the desire to be correct sooner or later kicks in. I've seen the guys here go from ribbon and lace covered cartoon soldiers to high standard representations of the WW2 soldier. They no=longer buy kit because it looks 'cool' but because it looks right. Those who accused me of being a stitch nazi are now offering advice on cut and colour to others. Lots have crossed over and can be seen at re-enactments and on the associated forums.
For those who wish to make a go of this hobby it would seem that near enough is no longer good enough.
Isn't your last post rather cynical?

Not wishing to put words in taffpara's mouth but I rather suspect he is taking your moto "Are you having a laugh? If not, why not?" to heart, judging by his smilies?

Taffpara has a good point, but I asked for historical accuracy and that's what Poacher gave me

No point splitting hairs after all, besides, for some nailing the look is part of the fun

I've seen the guys here go from ribbon and lace covered cartoon soldiers to high standard representations of the WW2 soldier.

Nobody told me that was an option. I LOVE ribbon and lace.....AND cartoons.