Blimey, this is my first event in a while, and I'm getting all frothy already. I'll be wearing my Heer Pionier wools, and low boots, and probably packing an MP44 (on single shot, of course). 
You've got nothing to ein, zwei, drei, vier
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Blimey, this is my first event in a while, and I'm getting all frothy already. I'll be wearing my Heer Pionier wools, and low boots, and probably packing an MP44 (on single shot, of course).
Ditto! although not sure what weapon to go for, K98, MP40, MP44 or MG42 
Will probably bring them all and decide on the day!
“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942
"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942
Ok Heer Pionier wools, and low boots it is, shall we go full on A frame & E-tool, may bring the MG42 if I can get it below 350 
I will join the pioniers,if allowed. I will sort my a-frame till then. I dont have choice of weapons as i only have a MP40. I would be happy to sign up for gunner 2 on an MG42, if needed.
I thought about building some "geballte Ladung" granades. Was surely something the pioniers would have in their pockets 
But dont worry it will be the base airsoft potato masher with some toilet roll add-ons.
is there a kit guide for pioneer ?
armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well
It's basically standard infantry kit with Black Waffenfarbe.
Collat tabs can have black waffenfarbe but the generic tabs are pretty common and allow you to use a tunic for any branch with just a change of shoulderboards.
Field gear is also as per standard infantry, the pionier side pouches and backpack were not issue kit but were given out on an operational basis and only a few members of a zug would have them. They are very useful for airsoft though and can hold quite a bit of gear.
Other pionier specific items were the saw, Axe/hammer, Long or short Wire cutters, pionier shovels and a leather tool pouch for fuses etc.
Lots of good pics and info here: [link]http://mp44.nl/equipment.htm[/link]
“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942
"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942
Aah, so we have decided upon the grizzled shovel wielding men of applied science; the pioniers! Would anyone who is planning on ordering a set of pioneer shoulder boards be able to do me a favour and order me a set as well? I don't actually have a fixed address I can have kit delivered to at present so I can't order my own right now 
. I'd send payment to whoever before the order is placed, it's just that colouring in my infanterie waffenfarbe with a felt-tip pen might look a bit naff. 
I've fired a bullet on every continent. Nearly hit someone, too.
Aah, so we have decided upon the grizzled shovel wielding men of applied science; the pioniers! Would anyone who is planning on ordering a set of pioneer shoulder boards be able to do me a favour and order me a set as well? I don't actually have a fixed address I can have kit delivered to at present so I can't order my own right now
Colouring regular infantry boards with a black laundry marker pen works great, I've done a few sets like that and you wouldn't know the difference!
“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942
"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942
We arent just any old pioneers, but 2nd panzer divs panzerpioniere. What we really need is a Hanomag with flamethowers on it, think you could mount one on the Krad?
Cheers
Martin
"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone
cheer's Boshman , i have the waffenfarbe , wire cutters and that will have to do for now , may invest in pouches at a later date .i like the look of the shoulder bad , very useful .
armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well
I'll be in my Heer wools, probably my greatcoat if its cold enough. I don't have pioneer waffenfarbe but I am tempted. I'm considering using my M1 carbine just because of those famous BotB photos.
Come on, Lardy - 7 quid won't break the bank. 
Once you try black, you'll never go back... ahem...
If it were in mid-winter, greatcoat would be essential wear. I'll bring mine if we have a cold snap.
You've got nothing to ein, zwei, drei, vier
Come on, Lardy - 7 quid won't break the bank.
If it were in mid-winter, greatcoat would be essential wear. I'll bring mine if we have a cold snap.
indeed , me also too as well
armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well
I'll wear mine too if it is cold enough, like at the last Bulge game. It really wasn't too bad, although it was quite a cold day.
Cheers
Martin
"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone
Oh go on then, count me in for the greatcoat fun
Bugger, does that mean I need black Waffenfarbe for my greatcoat too?
I'm planning on just bringing rifles to this, my G43 and K98. I'll leave the MP40 at home.
Cheers
Martin
"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone
Bugger, does that mean I need black Waffenfarbe for my greatcoat too?
I'm planning on just bringing rifles to this, my G43 and K98. I'll leave the MP40 at home.
Cheers
Martin
If you are wearing the greatcoat then you can just use the shoulderboards from your tunic as they wont be seen!
If it's cold enough I'll wear mine too. It will need to be cold though.
So who's gonna be the squad CO?
“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942
"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942
So who's gonna be the squad CO?
Surely with mission directed tactics we don't need a commander 
I am sure Josh will pick one, I've done enough commanding recently.
Cheers
Martin
"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone
So who's gonna be the squad CO?
Surely with mission directed tactics we don't need a commander
I am sure Josh will pick one, I've done enough commanding recently.
Cheers
Martin
Me too Martin. But, if we are going to try some squad tactics then we do need a squad structure, Squad leader, 2IC etc.
“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942
"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942
Happy to do sub section leader.
What is the structure overall? I asked the question before. Reading the Wehrmacht training manual, they worked with 10 guys per Gruppe. One machine gun group of 3, 5 Schuetzen, gruppen leader and sub group leader.
