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as you know sandy, HG has been put forward as a future PBI re-enacting impression , as its much more relevent to our average age(s). but for airsoft....... i just think its pointless, seeing how ww2 airsoft is crying out for more british line infantry soldiers.

 
Posted : 30/09/2010 3:26 pm
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Indeed.. in a year or two we'll have to retire the airborne look for re-enacting and move towards TA and HG!




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Posted : 30/09/2010 3:28 pm
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as you know sandy, HG has been put forward as a future PBI re-enacting impression , as its much more relevent to our average age(s). but for airsoft....... i just think its pointless, seeing how ww2 airsoft is crying out for more british line infantry soldiers.

'Twas merely an excuse to wear the HG kit I've gathered so far - Sealion was probably goingto be the only game I wore it, I don't disagree with someone wanting a discussion group on HG but it has a very limited future in airsoft.Kinda comes under one off games.

 
Posted : 30/09/2010 4:54 pm
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as you know sandy, HG has been put forward as a future PBI re-enacting impression , as its much more relevent to our average age(s). but for airsoft....... i just think its pointless, seeing how ww2 airsoft is crying out for more british line infantry soldiers.

'Twas merely an excuse to wear the HG kit I've gathered so far - Sealion was probably goingto be the only game I wore it, I don't disagree with someone wanting a discussion group on HG but it has a very limited future in airsoft.Kinda comes under one off games.

yep, stop the hunt for leather anklets and airsoft P14's, and get a set of 49th div polar bears. lets get some line infantry stuff done.

 
Posted : 30/09/2010 7:07 pm
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How very dissappointing - I really think a HG Scenario would be great fun no matter what - BAR pouches or otherwise. Really can't see a problem with SISK myself.

I'm a hero with coward's legs.

 
Posted : 30/09/2010 11:33 pm
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How very dissappointing - I really think a HG Scenario would be great fun no matter what - BAR pouches or otherwise. Really can't see a problem with SISK myself.

There isn't a problem with SISK Fremsley - despite what you read on this thread and elsewhere people are very happy to play at games that abound with inaccurate kit or have far fetched scenarios (even the naysayers above). The issue surely is organising a game for which people don't already have kit. To do a unformed HG properly will cost money that might be better spent on buying kit that has more universal use and will get more wear out of it. Hell, to do civvy costs money to do properly (or even improperly). Even the last game Op Sealion that specifically had the need for HG wasn't packed out with 'em. OK, you could have LDV in civvies as a basis for a scenario but everyone who is into WW2 airsoft already has a uniform of some sort. Wouldn't it be better to build a scenario (SISK or non-SISK, fantasy or historical) around what kit people already have?

 
Posted : 01/10/2010 6:41 am
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How very dissappointing - I really think a HG Scenario would be great fun no matter what - BAR pouches or otherwise. Really can't see a problem with SISK myself.

Dont be disappointed Fremsly you crack on mate..Whether folk have the right kit or not for a game dont seem to matter.. its all down to will there be enough intrest and will people book on.Take this weekends event US Airborne British Airborne and what do you see unbooked empty places..Now this event was built around them because of how many folk have the RIGHT KIT..was there a rush to book on no.!!! Building games around players and what kit they have..does it pay off..well no not all the time.


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Posted : 01/10/2010 8:31 am
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How very dissappointing - I really think a HG Scenario would be great fun no matter what - BAR pouches or otherwise. Really can't see a problem with SISK myself.

There isn't a problem with SISK Fremsley - despite what you read on this thread and elsewhere people are very happy to play at games that abound with inaccurate kit or have far fetched scenarios (even the naysayers above). The issue surely is organising a game for which people don't already have kit. To do a unformed HG properly will cost money that might be better spent on buying kit that has more universal use and will get more wear out of it. Hell, to do civvy costs money to do properly (or even improperly). Even the last game Op Sealion that specifically had the need for HG wasn't packed out with 'em. OK, you could have LDV in civvies as a basis for a scenario but everyone who is into WW2 airsoft already has a uniform of some sort. Wouldn't it be better to build a scenario (SISK or non-SISK, fantasy or historical) around what kit people already have?

My post wasn't anything to do with your post CW...It was was in answer to the above posts mate.. :good:


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Posted : 01/10/2010 9:00 am
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british airborne at devils hill? are you sure dave? the reason i didnt book intoi devils hill is i didnt have
1) the money
2) yank kit.

*edit,,,, ah ye meant jedburgh... my mistake.

 
Posted : 01/10/2010 9:31 am
dave barrett
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british airborne at devils hill? are you sure dave? the reason i didnt book intoi devils hill is i didnt have
1) the money
2) yank kit.

*edit,,,, ah ye meant jedburgh... my mistake.

No.. i'm sure we all no its my mistake..(No British Airborne at Devils Hill) but my point still stands.
And yes take the lack of interest for Jedburgh..Jedburgh one canceled..Jedburgh two just made it.


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Posted : 01/10/2010 9:57 am
 stof
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How very dissappointing - I really think a HG Scenario would be great fun no matter what - BAR pouches or otherwise. Really can't see a problem with SISK myself.

Fremsley,don't get me wrong ,I have nothing against more HG games and I do have a full Home Guard loadout which I would be more than happy to get more use out of ,I just think it is a bit limited in realistic scenarios and for anyone kitting out in british gear their money would be better spent on an infantry impression which they would get much more use out of, and as has been said already ,basic brit infantry is virtually the same kit.That having been said ,if another HG game comes up I will almost certainly be there.

 
Posted : 01/10/2010 10:40 pm
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Absolutely old bean. i just don't want us to give up the idea simply because we would use 37 Patt instead of BAR etc

I'm a hero with coward's legs.

 
Posted : 02/10/2010 10:31 am
 stof
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With regards to the bino/bar pouch thing.

Out of interest has anyone ever *seen* a set of HG BAR pouches for sale?

In twenty years of collecting militaria and 10 years of re-enacting with British kit I've never seen a pair let alone a pair for sale.

A pair for sale on ebay at the moment ,£125 starting price - a tad more than I would pay

 
Posted : 04/10/2010 2:49 am
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By the time I am old enough for HG I will be off doing something else to be honest.

Hmmm bragging or complaining? :wink:

What I hate most about young people is that I'm not one of them!

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Posted : 04/10/2010 9:01 pm
 stof
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By the time I am old enough for HG I will be off doing something else to be honest.

For some of us Simon ,this is the "something else" ,having given up competitive road racing and enduro riding 'cos I am no longer young or fit enough, competitive shooting/game shooting because it became boring ,and deep wreck diving / exploration for health reasons I like something that involves at least some of the level of research that was involved in planning exploratory dives, and always having been fascinated with the WW2 wrecks and the details that we unearthed researching them this became an interesting hobby that combined some of my interests .And although the satisfaction of a good shot isn't quite the same as dropping a good stag at 500 metres I get to fire more than 2 shots a year.Though I do wish I was still young enough to carry them back down the hills.

 
Posted : 04/10/2010 10:30 pm
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By the time I am old enough for HG I will be off doing something else to be honest.

Don't forget me! I'm only 17 and still do HG!!!

Man is too clever to survive without wisdom

 
Posted : 05/10/2010 10:26 am
Boshman
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By the time I am old enough for HG I will be off doing something else to be honest.

Don't forget me! I'm only 17 and still do HG!!!

Don't tell him your name Pike! Lol.

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Posted : 05/10/2010 1:32 pm
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Ineed you did, what fun a defaulter's parade can be!

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Posted : 06/10/2010 8:50 am
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I couldn't of put it better myself! :good:
That is pretty much all we do though, at least they get to go and fight. :slap:

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Posted : 07/10/2010 10:49 am
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I had a fascinating day at Tottington Manor in West Sussex on Saturday with talks from Bill King and Stuart Angell about the Sussex Auxilliary Units and their work during the war years. The day was hosted by the guys from Coleshill House, http://www.coleshillhouse.com/
and the highlight was to meet and shake the hand of Capt. Ian Benson who commanded the Auxilliary Units in Sussex, a very humbling experience.
They told us how hard it was to research such a secretive group that was formed in the shadows of MI6 and MI9 and the fact that so many who served had now passed on and taken their secrets with them. After the threat of invasion was over these troops kept up and maintained their vigil for another four years untill they were officially disbanded in 1944.
There were also demonstrations of the types of tactics and booby traps that they were trained in. There was a a virtual tour of the underground chamber that is under the manor house, and details of the OB's that were set up all across the country.
To sum up a great day and the website is well worth a visit.




 
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