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Peppered
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Hi,

I am trying to match my loadout and weapon so it is a bit closer to reality. My aim was to get an M14 looking a bit like a G43 but other tasks have got in the way. As a result, I have an early war uniform, G43 pouches and an MP40.

I have been resisting getting the MP40 as I didn't think it would be that normal for regular EMs to have MP40s. It would be OK to have the G43 however....

The choice I need to make is either to carry on and finish the M14/ G43 so I can keep the pouches; get MP40 pouches or get a Kar98 and Kar98 pouches (plus an expensive amount of shells and stripper clips). I am a bit worried about being hopelessly outgunned with a shell ejecting 330fps rifle while at the same time it costing an arm and a leg.

Did soldiers end up with mismatched pouches and weapons? Did many troops end up with an MP40 where they would normally have a rifle?

I should have gone Falshy, it's easier :(

Help.

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Posted : 08/05/2008 3:12 pm
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If issued a G43, you'd have on one side an M1909 (K98 stripper clip) pouch, and one G43 mag pouch on the other anyway... :wink:

I wouldn't worry too much about it mate, K98s (whether Tanaka or dBoys) end up costing you an arm/leg anyway, and if that's an issue, no-one's going to care about an EM having an MP40 for airsofting. True, it's nice to see a rifle squad having a realistic make-up of weapons, but it's not an airsofting imperative. The uniforms are expensive enouh anyway, go with a nice compromise on the gun.

 
Posted : 08/05/2008 3:27 pm
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If you get a Tanaka K98, K98 pouches arnt any good as the mags don't fit so i use G43 pouches as they do. :D Rule of thumb is any experienced soldier will use whats best in the field to make life a little more easier.

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Posted : 08/05/2008 9:12 pm
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Fair enough! I saw that most people with the Tanaka had to get G43 pouches as the K98 ones are too small to fit anything in. Not the case with the Dboyi k98 however. How many people have got one and can it actually be used for skirmishing against people with full power snipers and machine guns?

It would be really cool to have the correct pouches with shells on stripper clips in, and have a proper rifle company, but would it be a complete waste of money? Is any one else interested in doing this?

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Posted : 09/05/2008 7:45 am
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Funnily enough, the CiA organisers have floated an idea internally about running a bolt action game. Whilst our regular games can hardly be called blatfests such a game would be more realistic to weapons used in battle and so much more hardcore.

 
Posted : 09/05/2008 7:55 am
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Well, if it can be confirmed I am in as german but it will take months for the kit to arrive (I am groaning at the cost of shells and clips) if ordered so timing is important. How about a second Russian front game in winter (ideally somewhere where there might be snow)!

Might need to buy a great coat as well if that turns out to be the plan :)

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Posted : 09/05/2008 7:59 am
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A bolt action game sounds good to me. Would it be roughly accurate with 1 support weapon & 1 smg allowed per squad or would it be purely bolt action?
I vote for another rusky game too (even though we've not done the first one yet), my stuff might have arrived by then. :roll: Eastern front game + snow + bolt action game = pure awesomeness. 8)

 
Posted : 09/05/2008 9:38 am
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Heh, I knew they would be some hardcore fans! Early days yet but the idea would be to give single shot users a chance to have a realistic battle without being seemingly outgunned by a side of automatic weapons.

Not sure about getting a game in the snow though, picking a day without rain has it's problems!

 
Posted : 09/05/2008 9:56 am
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Needs to be fairly warm cos of me gas, no not bodily gas, weapon gas. :rofl:

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Posted : 09/05/2008 10:31 am
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Right, warm snow then....

 
Posted : 09/05/2008 10:33 am
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Right, warm snow then....

Thats the ticket. :slap:

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Posted : 09/05/2008 10:39 am
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Maybe we should just hire a snow machine, then we can do it when ever we want. :lol:

 
Posted : 09/05/2008 10:52 am
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Hmm.... just bolt action would severely limit the number of players. Much more so than, say..... banning hi-caps! *cough* :wink:

The Tanakas etc do well in woodland, because of their superior range. However, SMGs rule the roost in close combat - which is how it should be.


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Posted : 09/05/2008 11:34 am
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One of the things (apart from a love of WW2 military history) that attracts me to WW2 airsoft, is the fact that it is not dominated by hi-cap magazines and the ability to unload hundreds of BB's to take out an opponent as in a lot of modern airsoft games. I guess the reality is that during the 2nd World War, as in all conflicts no one would have wanted to lose thier life without reason enough, so made every effort to shoot without being shot and killed, which is fortunately something we do not have to worry about in airsoft, but with this comes the the fact that people will perform un-realistic tactics and game play. Perhaps if part of winning a game was by in-curring the least casulties was introduced, as part of the game scenario it could add a little more self preservation and might impact on the bias of auto weapons. Just a thought.

 
Posted : 09/05/2008 12:15 pm
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Hmm.... just bolt action would severely limit the number of players.

The firepower would be balanced and accurate and yup, it would be severely limted numbers - this sort of game would suit those whose idea of a good game isn't to 'kill' as many people as they can, hell, they might not get their sights on anyone...

 
Posted : 09/05/2008 12:37 pm
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Strangely enough I was talking to someone about a bolt action only game recently, (can't remember who it was), saying that I thought it would be a good idea as it would be much more realistic, so if you do one count me in :thumbs:

As to fitting tanaka mags into K98 pouches, I've got some idea's for modifying the pouches so the mags will fit, I'll let you know how I get on.



 
Posted : 09/05/2008 12:55 pm
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As to fitting tanaka mags into K98 pouches, I've got some idea's for modifying the pouches so the mags will fit, I'll let you know how I get on.

I've modified K98 pouches to fit MP001 magazines, so good luck getting the same done for Tanaka mags as well. I'd definitely be up for a bolt action game, even if the numbers would be quite small. Or, as a compromise, as already posted, a game where hicaps are banned.



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Posted : 09/05/2008 1:54 pm
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i would defo be up for a bolt action only game, maybe with low caps for smgs, or a really low ammo count for smgs

like a real life ammo loadout 120/150 rounds for auto weapons

80/100 rounds for rifles

would only attract "hardcore" players but it would be fun

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Posted : 09/05/2008 11:06 pm
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Most of PBI have bolt actions so we could easily field a British rifle section if a bolt action game came about.




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Posted : 15/05/2008 8:42 pm
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I played most of Churchills revenge last year with a bolt action & it was fun :twisted:

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Posted : 15/05/2008 8:55 pm
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