American Kit Pics

Problem is unless a *lot* of folk start doing japs then you're just never going to see a PTO game to use it in leaving you with the option of being the strange looking one at an open day...

Problem is unless a *lot* of folk start doing japs then you're just never going to see a PTO game to use it in leaving you with the option of being the strange looking one at an open day...

Which Webby manages even when he isn't wearing his USMC kit.....

I also do 1st infantry kit with my mate for the reason that they fought prietty much everywhere so opens for alot of expansion on your kit, problem is I started out with it and of course tried to do it on the cheap, by getting mostly SOF first run stuff (oh how stupid I was) but im slowly replacing it with correct items, I only have 2 FR bits left now, but atm im focusing on my german kit so il have to change them later, or try an weather or wash out some of the ink mabe ?

I also think british line infantry looks cool and I would love to do it problem is BD is a bit expencive for me atm.

Yes, I do like the look of a BEF loadout.

Looking good Tom, the French greatcoats are very passable for US (pocket should be sloping but who cares - and it's not bad for Brit either)

And now I am going to tease you mercilessly, you Mr dangly-straps person - and it wasn't the fashion back in the '40s to wear boots with laces undone (where did that bonkers idea come from anyway? )

Hello Chommers,just dug out my original US greatcoat and compared it to my French one and cannot see what you mean about the sloping pockets or do you have a different type?

Thanks

Gah, I'm going to have to go to the garage now and it's cold

Gah, I'm going to have to go to the garage now and it's cold

Sorry

Just that i finaly dug my US one out of the bottom of my wardrobe and had my French one handy to compare

The only very minor difference i can see after having a quick look is only cosmetic-the rear half belt on the French one the end is squared off while the US one is pointed.

There are i believe Dutch,Belgian and Greek greatcoats out there but they are closer to Brit ones than US ones so i would say to anyone with a French one that they look pretty much spot on(you watch now after me saying that ill take a better look at both and find loads of differences )

Time for some accuracy. Blummin taffpara - I had to go back four pages and brave the chill of the garage to answer this belated question!

Anyhoo, having bought two greatcoats recently for a British look I was sure I bought one from the same place that Tom did. Turns out to be so, and I also bought a 1950's British greatcoat and so had to decide which to convert. The 1950's jobbie was too difficult (having five sets of button rather than four) so I went for the Surplusandadventure one which had four button pairs that just needed swapping for GS brass. It had the right sort of horizontal flapped pockets and looks fine, though a tad greenish-brown compared to the brown-brown 1950's Brit.

So, for the accuracy corrections. The coat Tom and I have (which I assumed was French - and if it isn't then it would be of academic interest to know where from)) has horizontal flapped pockets a la Brit, whereas of course the US one should have upright unflapped pockets.

BTW, my steam machine that we normally use on the kitchen floor and to clean the car alloy wheels (when I can be arsed - OK, I've done it once. On the previous car that I sold two years ago.) worked fabulously to remove all trace of storage creases instantly.

Here is the S&A one:

I bought this one from the same place. Its listed as a "French Army M47 wool overcoat".

They are listed as 2 seperate items, so im wondering if they are to different makes. As yours is listed as "Genuine Army issue Wool Coat".

Time for some accuracy. Blummin taffpara - I had to go back four pages and brave the chill of the garage to answer this belated question!

Anyhoo, having bought two greatcoats recently for a British look I was sure I bought one from the same place that Tom did. Turns out to be so, and I also bought a 1950's British greatcoat and so had to decide which to convert. The 1950's jobbie was too difficult (having five sets of button rather than four) so I went for the Surplusandadventure one which had four button pairs that just needed swapping for GS brass. It had the right sort of horizontal flapped pockets and looks fine, though a tad greenish-brown compared to the brown-brown 1950's Brit.

So, for the accuracy corrections. The coat Tom and I have (which I assumed was French - and if it isn't then it would be of academic interest to know where from)) has horizontal flapped pockets a la Brit, whereas of course the US one should have upright unflapped pockets.

BTW, my steam machine that we normally use on the kitchen floor and to clean the car alloy wheels (when I can be arsed - OK, I've done it once. On the previous car that I sold two years ago.) worked fabulously to remove all trace of storage creases instantly.

Here is the S&A one:

Im realy not a stitch counter-honest

Any labels or markings/stamps on your coat to try to identify its origin-not that its of any major importance jut would be nice to know

I bought this one from the same place. Its listed as a "French Army M47 wool overcoat".

They are listed as 2 seperate items, so im wondering if they are to different makes. As yours is listed as "Genuine Army issue Wool Coat".

Again not that its crucial for Airsofting but what type of pocket flaps does yours have?

If vertical then its probably French

This might explain why I thought mine was French! (Will check for marks later..)

Mine: http://www.surplusandadventure.com/shop ... 23396.html
Biguk's: http://www.surplusandadventure.com/shop ... 19197.html

the easy way to tell if they are french is to see if the seams are re-enforced under the arms so the stitching doesnt come undone when surrendering...........................

Poor French, such an unfair reputation, they fought as hard as any...

true, they did, but not for as long........ and thats where history canes them.( the Italians suffer too, but to be honest they wernt cowards, just not very good soldiers)

The only markings on my horizontal flapped pocket greatcoat are a stamp on the inside half lining thus:

700ΣE
1
1955

The only markings on my horizontal flapped pocket greatcoat are a stamp on the inside half lining thus:

700ΣE
1
1955

100% Greek and a copy of the Brit Greatcoat-not sure if WW2 or 1951 pattern

Yup, WW2 pattern not 1951 (cos I have that too) and that ties up with the slight greenish-brown and the big giveaway - the Greek letter in the code

cheers Taff

ive got same as CW and mines also greek by the looks of the markings, got exactly the same numbers apart from theres 2 in place of the 1 and its dated 1950, so its
700ΣE
2
1950

its very good for the £30 delievered i paid ( i also got a .30 cal box included with the delivery ) and arrived the next day.
Tom.

Not that it matters but as BigUK has pointed out, the French (US looky-likey) is also available from the same vendor.
I missed it because it's listed as 'overcoat' not 'greatcoat' which doesn't help when I searched for 'greatcoat' !

Heh, I have the Brit looky-likey which is what I wanted but I might one day get the French one for my US kit, 'cos I like the greatcoat look...