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Shotgun in WWII

 
(@nathan_threepwood)
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Hello guys !
I've a question, the shotgun was used in WWII. I read that was used, but with no law permission.
For the Geneve convention " Shotgun is too violent for trench or field warfare "
Do you have any info about !?
PS. sorry for my bad english

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Topic starter Posted : 02/03/2013 2:13 pm
(@tommy9151)
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As far as I'm aware the only shotguns used by the regular army was with the US with examples such as Winchesters and early Ithaca 37's with wood stocks, but someone who specializes in the American side of WW2 History will have to correct/back me up on that.

For the partisans, Home Guard, Volkssturm, it'll probably be your standard shotgun any country gentlemen would have.

Weapons:
King Arms M1928 Thompson Submachine Gun
AGM Sten Mk.II
CYMA M1911 EAP

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Posted : 02/03/2013 4:23 pm
spiers
(@spiers)
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1897 Trenchgun - used regularly in the US Marines in the PTO but not as far as I know used in ETO. US Marines also used M3A1 Antitank Guns loaded with cannister (giant shotgun shells) to clear areas of jungle of Japanese troops.

Not used widespread but shotguns were used. I believe that it maybe because Japan didn't sign the Geneva Convention? I may be wrong on that part?

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General James M. Gavin

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Posted : 18/05/2013 4:30 pm
Cadaceus
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1897 Trenchgun - used regularly in the US Marines in the PTO but not as far as I know used in ETO. US Marines also used M3A1 Antitank Guns loaded with cannister (giant shotgun shells) to clear areas of jungle of Japanese troops.

Not used widespread but shotguns were used. I believe that it maybe because Japan didn't sign the Geneva Convention? I may be wrong on that part?

Japan did sign the 1929 Geneva convention but is was never ratified, also this dealt with treatment of POWs not weapons

Below copied from olive-drab

The highly-effective use of the shotgun by United States forces had a telling effect on the morale of front-line German troops. On 19 September 1918, the German government issued a diplomatic protest against the American use of shotguns, alleging that the shotgun was prohibited by the law of war. After careful consideration and review of the applicable law by The Judge Advocate General of the Army, Secretary of State Robert Lansing rejected the German protest in a formal note.

The German protest is the only known occasion in which the legality of actual combat use of the shotgun has been raised.

Shotguns were employed by Allied-supported partisans and guerrillas in Europe and Asia during World War II, and by the United States Army and Marine Corps in the Pacific and China-Burma-India (CBI) theaters. The short range of the shotgun made it of limited value for conventional forces in the open European battlefields, but its close-range effectiveness made it invaluable in the dense jungle battlefields of the Pacific and CBI theaters.

Impressions:
U.S. 35th Inf Tech Sargeant
British Royal Artillery Gunner
Generic SS Mann
Weapons:
Cyma M1A1
ASG Sten MK2
ASG MP40
TM M1911A1
WE Browning High Power
HFC Mauser C96

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