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slick63
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A few more early war kit pics....
France

Belgium

Italy

Vichy France

 
Posted : 13/10/2012 11:39 am
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The Italian tunic looks somewhat like the post war Swedish tunics that are all over ebay, they've got the open collar and pleated pockets too.
@ Wladek, I'm thinking of turning a VSR into a Steyr-Manlicher carbine once i get my AFRA sorted, so hopefully next year, it looks easy enough to do, just modify the stock a little and add some wood, maybe an AK ladder sight :good:

[EDIT] found it! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1672_ ... M95-30.JPG

 
Posted : 13/10/2012 11:49 am
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But Craig, is there not one more late war Polish game to be done yet? City based. I was even going Polish for that and getting the stencil on me helmet done. :good:
But early war rifles is fine with me too. :happydance:




 
Posted : 13/10/2012 7:21 pm
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Actually when looking at that first polish pic, it occurred to me that the british first world war uniform isn't far off.

 
Posted : 13/10/2012 10:31 pm
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I was thinking that too, but a repro WW1 uniform costs a fortune so I'm not sure that that's the best solution, I'm sure that there's something that we can find that doesn't cost so much :good:

[EDIT] TBH i was thinking that No2's might be good but the only problem is that they have open collars, so unless we can find something suitable I suppose that we'll have to compromise with the open collar, i suppose that one benefit of the No2's is that they are cheap and plentiful so any newbies wouldn't have to fork out to much dosh for their uniform, which could mean that the polish side would have plentiful numbers :D

 
Posted : 14/10/2012 1:30 pm
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I was thinking only because I already have a british WWI uniform... :twisted:

 
Posted : 14/10/2012 1:45 pm
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1. as it is a case of looking for distinctive shapes, and one of the Polish uniform's distinctive shapes is a hich closed collar No2s wouldn't be acceptable in anything I ran

2. All you need is a hat now Yith :twisted:

3. I know Sean, but finding an Urban site, that we could afford to run with the numbers expected proves very daunting.

 
Posted : 14/10/2012 2:15 pm
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Wladek have you tried having a word with the ffz urban assault lads over in Cambridgeshire, they have a big urban site, big buildings and may be able to help.

"Will you stop talking about the war!!"
"What, you started it!"
"We did NOT start it!"
"Yes you did, you invaded Poland..."

 
Posted : 14/10/2012 2:34 pm
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ffz would be 'free fire zone'?

 
Posted : 14/10/2012 2:42 pm
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This looks like a fantastic project, however rather than the jacket, isn't that Polish helmet going to present a problem? You could bodge a lot of the field equipment up with a mixture of Soviet & German stuff (gas mask bags, entrenching tool, mess tin, mag pouches, bread bag) though.

wrt the OP, whilst Polish cavalry did not charge panzers directly, they did engage 4th Panzer Div at Mokre and forced back elements of the Schutzen brigade. An interesting engagement which we've done as a wargame.

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Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone

 
Posted : 14/10/2012 4:57 pm
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I think that a Hungarian m51 helmet looks rather like the polish army helmet (not the adrian).
Is there any tunic that is cheap and looks like the polish one?

 
Posted : 14/10/2012 5:28 pm
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This looks like a fantastic project, however rather than the jacket, isn't that Polish helmet going to present a problem? You could bodge a lot of the field equipment up with a mixture of Soviet & German stuff (gas mask bags, entrenching tool, mess tin, mag pouches, bread bag) though.

wrt the OP, whilst Polish cavalry did not charge panzers directly, they did engage 4th Panzer Div at Mokre and forced back elements of the Schutzen brigade. An interesting engagement which we've done as a wargame.

Cheers
Martin

Funny way of writing 'kicking 4th Panzer's arse back a day' ;) I jest, Though Morkra showed how the cavalry did fight, effectively, against armour.

An I do keep saying we have plans that will start to materialise as guides over the new year. However I would say that Rogatywkas would fulfil the Polish head-wear department.

Plus, Cavalry wore Adrian's.

 
Posted : 14/10/2012 5:30 pm
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I know that the cavalry wore adrians but mechanised troops wore a newer design of helmet that came about in the 30's
[EDIT] Its the one in the first polish kit picture in this thread :good:

 
Posted : 14/10/2012 5:34 pm
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I think the British officers tunic is open collared, the Polish

I had a look at a modern RAF officer tunic and if one had some tailoring skills ;-) one could probably make quite a few new closed collars out of one spare tunic....

 
Posted : 15/10/2012 9:02 am
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ffz would be 'free fire zone'?

Yes mate, It's just an idea though, not been there in years myself but I know it still runs.

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"What, you started it!"
"We did NOT start it!"
"Yes you did, you invaded Poland..."

 
Posted : 15/10/2012 9:35 am
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Interesting guide to Polish uniforms here:

http://www.warlordgames.com/11613/wwii-polish-uniform-guide/

I'm wondering if you could get away with a Soviet helmet for the Polish one.

Cheers
Martin

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Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone

 
Posted : 15/10/2012 11:06 am
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it isn't too different, but then again a Rogy is only £20 from Poland.

 
Posted : 15/10/2012 12:12 pm
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then again a Rogy is only £20 from Poland.

Ah, that isn't too bad.I wondered where you get them from, SoF and Epic don't sell them :) Back to the jacket problem then.

For early war, in the first instance maybe it would be easier to start with BEF vs Germans in Norway or France? Siege of Calais, Narvik and all that, fewer uniform issues anyway.

Cheers
Martin

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Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone

 
Posted : 15/10/2012 1:56 pm
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For early war, in the first instance maybe it would be easier to start with BEF vs Germans in Norway or France? Siege of Calais, Narvik and all that, fewer uniform issues anyway.

I have to say that having spent far too much on Brit, Yank and US kit I'm more inclined to want to get more use out of those uniforms I have rather than acquiring yet another completely different set which is sounding increasingly like it may be a bit hotch-potch, inconsistent and ultimately unsatisfying (for me). More than happy to expand my collection of headwear, badges and bad accents but some of these look like there is little I could use from what I already have.

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I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.

 
Posted : 15/10/2012 2:36 pm
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I know, it is just getting a bit repetitive for me. Most of the, in fact all other, games out there will cater perfectly for the SoF ranges.

The problem with BEF Vs Germans is we don't 'move anywhere', it is still Brits Vs Germans, and after it is run people are still in the same big 3 trap. Part of the point is to kick this 'it was the Brits, and then the Russians got invaded and then the Yanks arrived' train of thought in the balls.

Though the Poles and Italians are going to be tricky, the French will be dead easy to convert to - so long as you have a pair of brown woollen trousers and a greatcoat, and then one can build from there.

Most people will not be interested, maybe not even enough people, but I have to have a vague amount of excitement to get me motivated or interested to do anything. And as was said 'there were no players as there were no games, and no games as there were no players', I want to live in a land of breeches and no pea dot, so will just have to try and build that land.

 
Posted : 15/10/2012 4:23 pm
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