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Boshman
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K98 springer.

Not used it for a while as have be CO for last few games so have been pistol only, but never really worry about being outgunned. When you do get a hit, it's so much more satisfying than with an AEG.

Berkshire.

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Adolf Hitler, November 1942

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Posted : 20/02/2014 8:14 pm
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1. Marushin M1 Garand 8mm- 330 fps
2. I intend to skirmish it, I haven't gotten to though
3. Michigan, United States

 
Posted : 20/02/2014 8:59 pm
CHThree
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Spring Enfield No4.
Garand AEG

Don't tend to leave them in the car at WW2 events, have used the No 4 all day at Crete but then again I think I took the Sten out for Josh's Arnhem game. The Garand is my weapon of choice for US impressions. As Charlie says, you don't feel so outgunned with a Garand. With a group of 5 you have a pretty effective fireteam. The Thompson is only there in case the Garand breaks down (which it hasn't,) and to lend to hamfisted types who bend it.

Am in W.Yorks.

 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:04 pm
MI-GO-A-GO-GO
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mi-go-a-go-go........yes..................yes/no..............Lancaster

1. tanaka k98 (need to replace hop chewin BB's) Garand (m14 with s&s kit on 355fps) m500 shotgun with trench gun front end
2. If i come out intending to use the garand i dam well do, same with the trench gun. Most decent games have ammo limits and the garand is beautiffuly accurate and economic. However i also have my mg42 and 34 and they are plastic light and seriously fun to shoot loads o BB's.
3. Lancaster


armoury. Sten lanchesteralike thompson m1a1 thompson 1928 Garand (m14 S&S) 1911 Browning HP Tanaka M10 stg 44 mp40 x 2 tanaka k98 MG42 (AK IN PLASTIC BODY) MG34 (ak in plastic body as well) Luger broom handle latex bayonet latex E-tool

 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:53 pm
dcheetham89
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1. Spring No4 Enfield
2. I generally use it at all events even open days, but I have been known to pick up the sten when irritated and bloody!
3. Lincolnshire

 
Posted : 20/02/2014 9:59 pm
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Spring Kar98k & M91/30
AEG SVT40
Co2 M1 carbine

I always take at least one to a WWII game and will usually choose one over anything else (only have my Mp44 otherwise anyway). You can't beat the realiablity of a rifle. I've only felt out gunned at a couple of what I would call less themed WWII games.

South Lincs

 
Posted : 20/02/2014 10:25 pm
mr cake
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1:This is probably not useful as im I nz but I do have a springer no.4 SMLE... :)
2: use it every time I go out in ww2 kit...which is ...80% of the time
3:nz

Kiwi airsofter, just pew-pewing.

 
Posted : 21/02/2014 7:26 am
askhati
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This thread is turning into a checklist for a rifles-only game, innit? :P

 
Posted : 21/02/2014 8:02 am
Ian
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1. K98 springer. 340-350fps
2. Used it for every game I've had it, apart from one game when the trigger sear failed. I take my MP40 or Sten as a back up.
3. Kent/Essex.





Armoury: AGM MP40, AGM Sten MkII, K98K/vsr and Maruzen P38.

 
Posted : 21/02/2014 9:56 am
Chomley-Warner
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1 How many of us have rifles , bolt action or semi locked garands or lookalike m14's ?
2 How many bring then to all games and leave them in the car after seeing too many aeg's on the field ?
3 roughly where in the country are you ?

1. M14 + gas K98
2. M14 is ultra reliable and skirmishable at all games but I have never got on well with bolties, attempts to down-power the K98 have meant that it has never entered a game in anger. Previous kar 98 worked but rarely well enough to hit anything. I match the weapon to the scenario/game balanced with reliability concerns, not fear of being out-gunned.
3. Derbyshire

PS I'm struck what a problem single shot guns are - gas or spring - chaps are always fettling, having bust bits or technical problems. Real bolt action rifles are the ultimate in reliability, automatic weapons less so - so why is the opposite true for toy guns?

 
Posted : 21/02/2014 10:54 am
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PS I'm struck what a problem single shot guns are - gas or spring - chaps are always fettling, having bust bits or technical problems. Real bolt action rifles are the ultimate in reliability, automatic weapons less so - so why is the opposite true for toy guns?

Its got to be down to the R&D for them, with the amount and varied nature for AEG gearboxes all the elements have at some point been re-designed and made better as the companies know that the product will then sell in numbers to offset the cost where as with spring and gas rifles someone comes up with a design that everyone then clones/copies so they all inevitably get the same inherent flaws. The only real way is to build a ground up mechanism which is what most people do with their rifles anyway especially for spring powered.

 
Posted : 21/02/2014 11:19 am
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i think part of the reliability issue with vsr based gun's is they are all based on the TM design and they limit their power to around 280fps , people invariably want around 340-350fps minimum to feel competitive and that put's a strain on the parts that they were never intended to cope with , this in tern means better grade materials needed in after market parts in order to cope .gas gun's are a law unto themselves ,less so with bolt actions as there's no blowback needing extra gas and the subsequent cool down effect it causes but unless there's a power adjustment system you are stuck with the output of a given gas on a given day's temperature , i'd love to have a look at a G+G and a Tanaka to see if the simple adjustment system on the pps Kar98k could be fitted .
i'll keep this thread updated as it's probably useful but i'll do it a bit at a time.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 21/02/2014 12:39 pm
askhati
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i think part of the reliability issue with vsr based gun's is they are all based on the TM design and they limit their power to around 280fps[...]

My Tercel Bar10 - MP007 in the Tercel language, I think - chronos 500FPS out of the box, and the internals seem to be holding up well. Really impressed with it thus far, except for the horrid, and extremely fragile, hop-up adjust system. If they just replace that with a top dead-center grub screw, that rifle will be 10/10.

 
Posted : 21/02/2014 1:09 pm
MartinR
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Reliability is an issue with ww2 bolties as the majority are custom guns or horrible gas things which I'm astonished work at all.

My springers work fine, the TM vsr based k98 in particular shoots like a dream, straight as a die. The issues are around feeding, as the magazine sits in a hole hacked out the stock and held in place with a few bits of plastic and pot metal. Does it all line up properly? Who knows, I hope so.

With my old no 4 I had to build each magazine individually to get them to work. The new one seems better, but it is brand new. If I only put a few hundred rounds a year through it, hopefully it will stay that way for a long time.

Cheers
Martin

"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone

 
Posted : 21/02/2014 3:39 pm
dadio
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i think it's a surprise to anybody who attempts a custom gun build just how accurately the magazine has to fit in order for it to work.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 21/02/2014 4:20 pm
Inkall
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Having picked a fight with some King Arms plastic mp40/sten mags myself, and had a friend dealing with cheap clone mags for his mp5 our little group know all too well about how a millimeter the wrong way can take a mag from useful to useless.

I dread to think how much more painful it is to discover that you need to rebuild or rework the magwell or lower receiver rather than just hack bits off a cheap magazine though.

 
Posted : 21/02/2014 4:27 pm
MartinR
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It took me 18 months to get my M14 mid caps to work properly with minute modifications. Then . Lo and behold the new half size one's work right from the box.

Cheers
Martin

"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone

 
Posted : 21/02/2014 4:54 pm
ww2stu
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1 How many of us have rifles , bolt action or semi locked garands or lookalike m14's ?
Custom Made Garand from M14 locked to semi - 390 FPS

2 How many bring then to all games and leave them in the car after seeing too many aeg's on the field ?
Not used in a ww2 game yet as only had a few shootie mags made for it. New BAR meant i have played support gunner recently.

3 roughly where in the country are you ?
Hertfordshire.

 
Posted : 21/02/2014 6:12 pm
GDog
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Rifles i've got- M1 Garand at 300ish fps. i love it in a disturbing way...
Where am i in the country? - Warwickshire.


 
Posted : 29/03/2014 6:26 pm
Raffles
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1 How many of us have rifles , bolt action or semi locked garands or lookalike m14's ?
I've got a K98 build on the go and a Garand built from a CYMA M14 in a custom wood kit. I've not locked it to semi as the M14 gearbox is too tempremental needing to be switched to full auto when it locks up. Not the greatest design.

2 How many bring then to all games and leave them in the car after seeing too many aeg's on the field ?
I'll always start out with the best intentions of using a rifle all day but more often than not I'll go to my trusty Thompson.

3 roughly where in the country are you ?
Glasgow but occasionally London/Hertfordshire.

 
Posted : 31/03/2014 6:52 pm
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