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D3801
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Hello folks, totally new to airsoft, I've been reenacting ww2 for 4-5 years, non-battlefield/skirmishes.

I was wondering how much crossover there is between the ww2airsofting and show-related ww2 reenacting, public displays.

I heard some NAREs reenactor groups do use airsoft weapons. As far as public displays, what's the situation. if you were registered/insured for both, could you use an airsoft replica at a ww2 reenacting static- display or event, or is this a no-no ?


 
Posted : 30/04/2013 10:38 pm
 Yith
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No problems at all. Of course you can't go around shooting them at a public show! I recommend leaving bbs, batteries and gas at home.

I've been taking airsoft replicas to WWII public events for years without any problems at all... except that sometimes they don't look quite as real as a real gun does!


 
Posted : 30/04/2013 10:59 pm
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thanks for the reply , encouraging info.

Was wondering, if any world war two airsoft events have staged scenarios, set close to neutral territory ?

Such as downed aircrew try to make the Swiss border, etc. Wehrmacht/police scour area,


 
Posted : 30/04/2013 11:05 pm
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thanks for the reply , encouraging info.

Was wondering, if any world war two airsoft events have staged scenarios, set close to neutral territory ?

Such as downed aircrew try to make the Swiss border, etc. Wehrmacht/police scour area,

We can run any game we wish and similar ideas will have been used. If that one floats your boat once you get more involved you could organise it yourself as many now do.


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Posted : 01/05/2013 5:59 am
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thanks for the reply , encouraging info.

Was wondering, if any world war two airsoft events have staged scenarios, set close to neutral territory ?

Such as downed aircrew try to make the Swiss border, etc. Wehrmacht/police scour area,

Welcome to the forum!

Not neutral territory, but we've (CiA) have run events involving escapees, Jedburghs and other non-front line stuff. Our latest plan was to run an event involving the breakout of German prisoners from Wales, but we lost the site. :(

Have a look through this section of the forum for more info on past events: viewforum.php?f=69

All the organisers on here have tried to introduce reenactors to airsoft battles, but it's never really been that successful.




 
Posted : 01/05/2013 9:12 am
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Do you go to static-display or public ww2 skirmish events.

Do the general public get to see much airsoft reenacting, other than you-tube clips ? Being new to airsoft generally, I don't know how the two areas compare or overlap/cooperate.

Preseumably, if NARes groups use airsoft ww2 replicas, there's a wide possibility for combining airsoft equipment with ,blank-fire weapons.

I've seen UKARA dealers at War & Peace etc, but not seen a lot of ww2 airsoft groups.

In terms of cooperation , making up the numbers, combined shows, could there more interaction, say with ww2 reenactors putting on the static displays at public shows, and ww2 airsoft groups doing public battles/skirmishes.


 
Posted : 01/05/2013 11:11 am
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Those that do re-enactment (well, us) just do static shows really. Like Yith said, you cannot fire an airsoft gun at a public event, and they don't make any noise. 'Watching' airsoft is 98% rubbish, it is about being a person 'immersed' behind the sites etc etc - plus on principle I won't do it because I have never seen a blank firing public battle that was any better then a farce.

The only real crossover would be if re-enactors came to an airsoft 'private battle', but they don't.


 
Posted : 01/05/2013 11:18 am
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The only real crossover would be if re-enactors came to an airsoft 'private battle', but they don't.

Well, I'm a re-enactor and I do want to airsoft. I consider static public displays to be a total waste of my time and effort.


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Posted : 01/05/2013 11:27 am
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Of course, there is an argument that what we do is 're-enacting', and it is a valid one. Static displays are a nice change of pace. A chance to get the typewritter out and spend a weekend with friends, but in general I probably agree with you - it aint a patch on a proper WW2 airsoft game.


 
Posted : 01/05/2013 11:36 am
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I have been trying for more than 4 years to get WW2 re-enactors to come to our events but it tends to be like blood from a stone.
I do also display my kit vehicles guns etc at re-enactment events for the public I also try to promote WW2 airsoft at the same time.

I have managed to get about 2 guys interested in 4 years :roll:

The problems tend to be re-enactors like their fun paid for by the public not out of their own pocket, this isn't 100% the case but it is part of the problem. The other thing is they look on aisoft guns as toys as they don't go bang and many of them have probably fired and owned or still own live fire weapons.
I have done all above but find after doing all that, airsoft can be far more fun and WW2 airsoft in particular.
You can go to maybe 3 or 4 airsoft events and find maybe 3 of them not your thing but if you stick with it eventually you will go to one you love and that will convert you for good.
You will get to know what events you like and get an idea what to look for.


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Posted : 01/05/2013 11:41 am
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The problems tend to be re-enactors like their fun paid for by the public not out of their own pocket, this isn't 100% the case but it is part of the problem.

I wouldn't mind a piece of that all that much. But.. the kit costs 1000-1500 quid. Travel costs some 100 quid there and back. The money you get paid barely covers the travel and does not even begin to cover the cost of your kit. You are basically paying through the nose for a privilege of working during the weekend for a local council for money below the minimum legal wage. I don't enjoy this treatment much. And since it's all that Brit re-enactors seem to do I've pretty much pulled out of re-enactment in Britain. Gonna get back to it back in Poland.

The uniform I have is meant for crawling in the mud, crashing through bushes and dodging under fire. Even when I'm at regular blaaaaaartsoft I honestly think I'm doing more re-enacting then sitting on my ass and showing people what my boots look like :)


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Posted : 01/05/2013 12:02 pm
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Preseumably, if NARes groups use airsoft ww2 replicas, there's a wide possibility for combining airsoft equipment with ,blank-fire weapons.

This totally wouldn't work. The USP of airsoft over blank fire battles is that you can't doubt whether you've been hit or not...or at least rarely, and the rule is 'if in doubt, call out'.




 
Posted : 01/05/2013 1:09 pm
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This totally wouldn't work. The USP of airsoft over blank fire battles is that you can't doubt whether you've been hit or not...or at least rarely, and the rule is 'if in doubt, call out'.

Wasn't there a BANG firing AT gun at Carentan? It is in the YT movie.


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Posted : 01/05/2013 1:22 pm
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yes, there are sometimes props that go bang at games, but that is generally all they do - they don't actually fire/'kill things' in game. They are there for the atmosphere.

Note: you won't see any at my games, due to the above reason. I tend to find they distract from, rather then add to, a game.*

*note to the note: my personal opinion, I am aware people think differently and accept this is only a matter of preference.


 
Posted : 01/05/2013 1:27 pm
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I love noise in a game myself and if anyone wants to use BF for atmosphere at their own cost I have little problem with it as long as it fits in with the scenario.
2 of the games I have been involved with in the last 12 months have had BF machine guns in them.

When I run an event I try to make it noisy, if it is a battle it should sound like one, if people are distracted by the noise then it's working.
Stay home if you want a chess game :giggle:

What I mean about re-enactors wanting the public to pay is they are happy to pay petrol and to buy their kit but not to pay £40 to get into an event on top of all this.
If they take part in a staged re-enactment show for the public then more than likely they are not paying to take part and will have their ammo paid for or subsidised by the public gate fee.


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Posted : 01/05/2013 2:41 pm
D3801
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This is all new to me, fascinating to hear all the feedback, from different angles.

At Public events, I guess the crowd puller, is something like Bastoigne '44, in Mid July with a WInter snow scene, tanks, etc.

So events such as War N Peace Revival , Miltary Odyssey , Victory Show would be the exceptions, rather than general rule.

Thanks


 
Posted : 01/05/2013 4:58 pm
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