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dadio
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i know this must be on here somewhere but i cant find it can anybody tell me how to pu together the german basic webbing,y straps, belt,bread bag,gas mask tin,mp40 pouches etc.
or point me at a thread that explains it.
thanks in advance.

armoury
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Posted : 15/10/2011 10:28 pm
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http://www.mp44.nl/equipment.htm

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Posted : 15/10/2011 10:32 pm
Steiner
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Yep, great site. My advice is to get belt hooks and ensure your belt is nice and tight. I think people's problems with keeping it all together are often due to belts being worn far too low, and far too loose.


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Posted : 16/10/2011 2:03 pm
dadio
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from the pictures i can see that the rear part hooks under the belt but the front straps i cant see how they atatch,i havent got the mp40 mag pouches yet but im assuming that the metal hooks attatch to the pouch but what about the under straps and how does it all conect to the belt at the front?
or does it all become obvious once i have the mag pouches?

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 16/10/2011 2:37 pm
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Yes, the pouches slide onto the belt and the straps with hooks attach to a D ring on the top of each of the pouches. You can attach straps to belt without a pouch by means of a D ring belt loop (if say you only used a pouch on one side)
http://militaria-net.co.uk/oscommerce/catalog/dring-belt-loop-p-778.html

The non-hook strap ends with the D rings are passed towards the back and used with backpacks and A-frames, not pouches at the front.

 
Posted : 16/10/2011 2:51 pm
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I use one D ring with my P38 hardshell holster and one mp44 pouch :good:

 
Posted : 16/10/2011 3:00 pm
Jimmiiee
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Helpful link :happydance: Thanks!!

I too am having to put togeather some webbing for a heer kit, slowly but surely, and was wondering on the colour of the MP40 pouches. To get them grey or green?? Which is correct??

Thanks
JD

 
Posted : 16/10/2011 3:57 pm
Steiner
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They seem to be produced in a variety of colours, from tan to green - I think any shade is ok.


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Posted : 16/10/2011 4:38 pm
dadio
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thanks that makes more sense :idea:

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 16/10/2011 8:02 pm
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slightly old thread now, but still usefull. just used it to figure out the fastening of the gas mask tin. still took a while mind! who-ever designed all these old ways of fastening things was mental :lol:

 
Posted : 07/02/2012 1:27 pm
dadio
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ok next question,belt hooks.
i purchased 2 hooks and fitted them to the back,now looing at them and the 3 holes in the jacket i first went through the top hole from the outside and through the matching hole in the internal suspender then down back through the bottom hole in the suspender and out the bottom hole in the jacket ,so when so when done from the outside you see the top loops of the hook and the hook at the bottom,is that right it looks secure.
next im going to get another pair of hooks for the front,now at the front do you reverse the hooks to prevent the belt rideing up so that the hook is upsidedown.
d loops.
i allso got a couple of d loops and i assume the lether loop goes round the belt between the mag pouch belt loops ,i tried this dut the "d "part doesent come up high enough to line up with the loops on the mag pouch at the top or dont you bother with the mag pouch top loops anymoor? and just go straight to the d loop instead? for the time being i've just put one "d looop" at the back instead whitch seems to work well and stop the whole caboodle falling appart when i put it on .
dont know how correct this is but i found that there is a second strap that goes under the front strap and i've been told this is for the "a frame" but i found i could extend that around the belt between the mag pouch bely loops ,this stops the front part falling appart.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 08/02/2012 7:10 pm
Chomley-Warner
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You don't need to use belt loops at all. The belt goes through the MP40( or other) mag pouch and the top ring of the pouch hooks on to the Y strap hook. However, if you are only using one pouch (as I was at the weekend) then the pouchless strap won't reach the belt. So you use the belt loop in lieu of the pouch. The whole ensemble is levelled up using the buckles.

Your belt hook solution is overly complex - fix to internal suspenders and pass the hook outwards through one hole only - the same back and front. The belt drops down into the hook on all four hooks.

 
Posted : 08/02/2012 7:42 pm
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The only part of the belt hook you should see from the outside is the 'hook'.
The rest is held by the internal suspenders.
The front hooks are done just the same as the real ones. With real weapons and real ammo there is no riding up problem.
D loops are a supplementary way of slinging gear on the belt, not a primary.
They are used when you have an item of gear that does not have its own loop.
You dont need them if you have K98 or MP40 pouches for instance. If you wear a pistol in the place of a mag pouch then you will need a d loop. Want to sling an extra water bottle, use a d loop.
You do see them used at the back of y straps, I dont bother but if it works for you....

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Posted : 08/02/2012 7:50 pm
dadio
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thanks guys that all makes moore sense

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 08/02/2012 7:52 pm
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