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Peppered
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Hi, as a new recruit in the air landing British, I have been issued a rather ropey looking Bren. Can the section command of the South Staff Reg give an indication to how we as a squad are to be organised?

My understanding is that in a full strength infantry section we would have two rifle squads of eight men plus command and at least one command section with a bren and some ammo carriers of around 4 men (No1, No2, gun commander and signalman) plus command. That would encourage the use of a suppressing fire attack from the Bren in a static position and a flanking attack without engagement in tactical bounds (fire position to fire position) of the two rifle squads to the final full frontal attack and bayonet charge. Ground permitting.

As we are low in numbers due to the limitations of glider insertion and the likely hood of losses, we have more Brens available. The problem is they are not so good for assaulting so how are we to organise attacks? Do we use the mechanised infantry, two parallel squad frontal attack (not good over distance and heavy losses as we have no armoured vehicles!)? Can we organise a flanking attack with the equipment and low numbers we are likely to have available?


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Posted : 15/08/2008 9:04 am
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See the list at the bottom of this page for the ideal organisation ...

http://www.totalsoldiers.org.uk/w_total ... lliary.htm

Though in actual fact we should be in a Waco, not Horsa.


 
Posted : 15/08/2008 9:10 am
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Hi, as a new recruit in the air landing British, I have been issued a rather ropey looking Bren. Can the section command of the South Staff Reg give an indication to how we as a squad are to be organised?

My understanding is that in a full strength infantry section we would have two rifle squads of eight men plus command and at least one command section with a bren and some ammo carriers of around 4 men (No1, No2, gun commander and signalman) plus command. That would encourage the use of a suppressing fire attack from the Bren in a static position and a flanking attack without engagement in tactical bounds (fire position to fire position) of the two rifle squads to the final full frontal attack and bayonet charge. Ground permitting.

As we are low in numbers due to the limitations of glider insertion and the likely hood of losses, we have more Brens available. The problem is they are not so good for assaulting so how are we to organise attacks? Do we use the mechanised infantry, two parallel squad frontal attack (not good over distance and heavy losses as we have no armoured vehicles!)? Can we organise a flanking attack with the equipment and low numbers we are likely to have available?

I'd advise running at the enemy whilst shouting loudly. A Bren will do, but the perfect weapons for this are a six shot revolver and a cane.




 
Posted : 15/08/2008 9:19 am
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Though in actual fact we should be in a Waco

Saw a fantastic bit of kit in one of the museums at Normandy - a glider pilot's loading calculator. A fitted box containing a complicated brass balance system along with a collection of weights. Loading levels were marked on a diagram on the lid along with typical weights of men and kit. The weights were hung on the balance system and shuffled around until the loading was theoretically correct. God knows how much that cost to make - I suppose it was shared but even so! That sort of things could be done on a PDA now for a fraction of the cost.

Anyhoo, back to the question. In the initial stages of the Operation the British will be in full attack mode (see my briefing elsewhere) this will require rapid forward movement with small numbers of men. It's likely that the Thompson will be the most useful tool here. Squad formations will be fluid and change to the job in hand. Where objectives need to be held then support guns in fixed positions will come into their own.


 
Posted : 15/08/2008 9:35 am
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Do we use the mechanised infantry, two parallel squad frontal attack (not good over distance and heavy losses as we have no armoured vehicles!)?

But we have a tank and a jeep?


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Posted : 15/08/2008 8:19 pm
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But we have a tank and a jeep?

That, as has been mentioned by Headshot before, probably won't be anything other than static objects for H&S reasons.


 
Posted : 15/08/2008 9:20 pm
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From looking at the ariel picture of the site, much of the area is open. and rolling hills from looking at the various video's on you tube.


 
Posted : 16/08/2008 11:55 am
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It is, but there's a lot of Bracken on site. Anyone with K98's might want to bring them as 'captured' weapons.




 
Posted : 16/08/2008 2:28 pm
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Conversely, my hope is there is a stiff wind for the Husky weekend - the wind played havoc with the K98's at TEHL !!


 
Posted : 16/08/2008 2:31 pm
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I'll bring my G33 but not sure if I'll be able to use it as I haven't got any 0.43s to bring it down to less than 500.

The above should be read with a healthy dose of sarcasm.

Anyway, we're better off running at them en-masse than trying to play them at their own game. If we all go to ground when the first couple of "sniper" bullets start incoming we're doomed.


 
Posted : 17/08/2008 10:52 am
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I will bring the Panzerschreck along anyway as I don't know how the game is going to work, the electronics are not sorted out yet may be next year before that works.
It is only a tube with the bits on at the moment but if Jerry gets within range with it we can call it a tank kill, at least it is nice and heavy for them to carry.


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Posted : 18/08/2008 2:13 pm
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It is only a tube with the bits on at the moment but if Jerry gets within range with it we can call it a tank kill, at least it is nice and heavy for them to carry.

:|




 
Posted : 18/08/2008 2:15 pm
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Sorry not had time it still looks ok they could put a pyro in if they get the ok on the day it is well strong enough to take it.
I was hoping someone else was going to give me an answer as to the best way to do it but got nothing.
PM me if you want to discus anything on this.

As I said if they have to carry it or capture it then that gives them the realism.


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Posted : 18/08/2008 3:39 pm
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Are you suggesting it be used in the same way you would register a grenade hit? If they can aim the Panzershrek and light a pyro in the tube pointed at the tank then the tank would be considered hit?
Thats not a bad idea, seems to me only the same as when someone throws a grenade? The player must judge whether he was within the blast radius...

And yeh, it's errr rather weighty. God help the bugger who lugs that round. What did you make it out of?


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Posted : 18/08/2008 3:45 pm
HeadShot
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Let us worry about the game plan and rules.....you guys will have more than enough to do.




 
Posted : 18/08/2008 4:05 pm
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Yes of course sorry. Just hypothesizing.


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Posted : 18/08/2008 4:15 pm
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Rather than leaving it to the last minute I think if we just say a grenade thrown under it will suffice. :idea:
Unless a better idea is thought of.


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Posted : 18/08/2008 10:40 pm
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How many Bren guns will we have?

It doesn't look like Warren can deliver my one in time....


 
Posted : 21/08/2008 9:49 am
Chomley-Warner
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Well, there is a surprise :roll:


 
Posted : 21/08/2008 9:57 am
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To be honest I've pretty much given up on it. On order since early May and no further forward despite numerous emails and calls :evil:


 
Posted : 21/08/2008 10:02 am
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