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Hänschen klein
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I am coming as FJ and have got a Smock webbing trousers and a FJ Helmet (Had to paint it Normandy camo thought as it looks so cool :whistle: You will have just to think that it was on trial in Italy before being rolled out to the troops in France :wink: ) Now looking at pictures and chat FJ were wearing LW Tropical shirts. As I have to kit out my 2 lads (Money money money no not the Abba song :rofl: ) I was going to get a British Army No 2 dress shirt. I know they are lighter in colour than the tan LW ones but for £6 they may fit the bill.
What do you think
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Posted : 16/04/2011 2:22 pm
Steiner
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I'm sure they could easily pass as bleached by the sun. 8)


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Posted : 17/04/2011 4:42 am
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The shirt will be under your smock anyway, so I'd say it's fine.

 
Posted : 17/04/2011 7:11 am
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Ok cheers





 
Posted : 17/04/2011 7:17 am
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Excellent kit list - well done on that, Stuart. :good:

just quick question where do you put the holster on the web set up when you have 2 mag pouches and a bread bag on the belt ?

Good question! I would tend to only wear one MP40 pouch. You'll find the pockets in the smock can easily accommodate a number of mags.

also i know the straps are the heer type and both belt and straps are in black i did read some where that the FJ towards the later years were wearing heer kit or what ever was issued to them

Correct - later war, LW troops were issued with various kit that was previously regarded as Heer / W-SS only.


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Posted : 17/04/2011 12:47 pm
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I did read that british shirts were much loved by DAK troops in north africa. no reason to think that with the Italian front being such a poor mans! front, that they would not make use of any items they had.

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Posted : 17/04/2011 12:55 pm
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i will now be running down the rock next month to meet boshman and play a game with him and his bro in my new kit

What date are you going ? :)


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Posted : 17/04/2011 1:44 pm
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Animal,this is a handy link for what goes where on German belt order

[link]http://www.mp44.nl/equipment.htm[/link]

 
Posted : 17/04/2011 3:19 pm
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cheers mate great link :good:. quick one though when you have just one mp40 ammo pouch on one side and a holster on the other . where do the y straps attach . i know normaly with no holster they attach on the mag pouch o ring . do both hooks now go under holster and pouch and onto the belt :? . the holster has no o ring and the mag pouch sits higher up

You can use a leather belt loop with a D ring on it

http://www.epicmilitaria.com/product.ph ... -belt-loop.

 
Posted : 17/04/2011 4:02 pm
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I only wear one MP40 pouch, to which one Y strap attaches as normal. I use a D loop on the other side and adjust the other Y strap to hook into that.

http://militaria-net.co.uk/oscommerce/c ... p-778.html

(Handy thing to have - you can also use it downward to clip a water bottle into which is more convenient than round the back as normal, for example)

Edit: pipped to the post!

 
Posted : 17/04/2011 4:06 pm
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as above.

I'll bring one for you if you're max'd out with buying WW2 clobber for the anklebiters :D

Just remember to remind me nearer the time

 
Posted : 17/04/2011 4:23 pm
Steiner
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Well, in combat, you see all sorts of variations, due to practicality. I usually wear my bottle clipped onto the breadbag, but not with the strap through the leather tab, so it's easier. Anyway, you'll always have a comrade around to help you. That's the way it is with WWII kit. :good:


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Posted : 17/04/2011 6:21 pm
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Well.... yeah, but I can live with that. :D


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Posted : 17/04/2011 8:30 pm
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It ALL flaps about :giggle:

Not nearly as much as '37 patt though.

 
Posted : 18/04/2011 6:15 am
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Yes, I usually just clip the water bottle on, and yes it does flap around, but it really isn't a problem.

where do you put the holster

left hip. There is just room on the belt for 2 x MP40 pouches, holster, entrenching tool, breadbag and then a zelt strapped on over the top. With all that junk, you'll need your Y straps though :)

As already mentioned, a few spare D rings can come in very handy as well.

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Posted : 18/04/2011 8:08 am
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Tan & Water jump smocks are fine for this. Wear whatever trousers you have (as the real FJ did)

 
Posted : 18/04/2011 10:46 am
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If you are buying a new smock then I would recommend splinter-b or plain green type rather than T&W as they were much more common and accurate for a larger time frame of the war. But as B&H says, T&W smock is fine for this even. Trousers can be standard wool heer or FJ type or luft tropical or Italian camo, or reed green HBT or Brit KD even.

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Posted : 18/04/2011 10:58 am
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By late war, T&W accounted for about 10% of smocks. So I would definitely go for splinter. :good:


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Posted : 19/04/2011 7:20 am
Steiner
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Depends where you get it from, I guess. If it doesn't fit, I suggest sending it back.


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Posted : 19/04/2011 5:41 pm
Steiner
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Hmm... strange. If you can't get it to fit, give them a call - they've usually got very good customer service.


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Posted : 19/04/2011 6:09 pm
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