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Chomley-Warner
(@admin-infinity)
Illustrious Member Admin

With great regret we have decided, due to a lack of bookings, to postpone Op Jedburgh until sometime next year.

For one reason or another (can't make the event/don't want to play realistic games/don't want to attend CiA events) we just haven't reached anywhere near a critical mass of players to justify the time and effort organising an event, let alone making an event work with a low turnout.

Headshot will be refunding Paypal forthwith.

Sorry to players who did want to attend but I hope you will see we had no option. All the more regrettable since we have had to abandon our planned November event (which was to have been a gritty Russian based urban scenario) as the land owner has gone into administration. Double bugger.

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Topic starter Posted : 07/08/2009 9:00 am




marsha
(@marsha)
Noble Member

oh hell i was looking forward to this





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Posted : 07/08/2009 9:05 am




dave barrett
(@dave-barrett)
Prominent Member

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


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Posted : 07/08/2009 9:08 am




Sgt.Heide
(@sgt-heide)
Illustrious Member

Bloody hell.

It never ceases to amaze me that "sisks" seem to have no problem getting numbers of players, yet a full on, immersive and authentic event has been postponed. Even more incredible when you look at the number of posts regarding kit accuracy, WW2 history and living history. Perhaps some people like to talk about realism and endurance but when it comes to doing it, they bottle it, preferring to ponce around trying to look good. I'm incredibly disheartened at the hypocrisy of some people and the lack of support to CiA, from whom ALL WW2 airsofting has grown and many have taken much but given little in return. Shame on them all.



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Posted : 07/08/2009 9:53 am




Chomley-Warner
(@admin-infinity)
Illustrious Member Admin

Well, your words are very kind Pete but it's true to say we don't expect support, indeed it's been an amazement to us that so many have turned up and supported events in the past.

Still, we have said it in our 'How to put on an event' guide - the way to do it is put on an event you want to play, if others like the idea they will book, if not then it's a duffer! Sadly it's the only way to find out whether people are interested in an idea - 'sounds great' posts are all very well but it's 'bums on seats' that count. (Phrase shamelessly pinched from Josh :good: )

But your general point is fair Pete, I suspect the bulk of WW2 players just want to turn up in swanky kit and shoot people and not be unduly taxed or over-exerted in the process! CiA events have taken an opposite view to this, on the assumption that we should be able to find 40 like-minded people to make a go of it. What we won't do of course is put an event on for the sake of it - way too much time and personal cash involved!

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Topic starter Posted : 07/08/2009 10:09 am




Devonshire Trooper
(@devonshire-trooper)
Noble Member

I too found it puzzeling, but then considering it's summer and lots of people have kids, holidays and the PBI guys are buzy I think that does narrow down the numbers.

Personaly I was realy hyped about it, but then I looked at my bank account as im going to uni soon which has severely restricted what I can and cannot do :(

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Posted : 07/08/2009 10:11 am




Chomley-Warner
(@admin-infinity)
Illustrious Member Admin

Yup, cash strained times don't help, I'm very poor myself at the moment and things look to continue to be bleak for the next year. :(

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Topic starter Posted : 07/08/2009 10:14 am




dieselmonkey
(@dieselmonkey)
Noble Member

Really sorry to hear this, Dave.

I do think that job insecurity/the general lack of money around at the moment isn't helping, either.

Hopefully things will pick up again soon, that's two 'niche' ww2 events cancelled now.

At this rate i think that's my ww2 season over with for the year. :(

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Posted : 07/08/2009 10:21 am




Sgt.Heide
(@sgt-heide)
Illustrious Member

"Cash strained times" don't seem to be affecting the £85+ weekend games, which, in my opinion, don't offer anywhere near as much as a CiA event. I mean, £40 or so isn't even the cost of a night out these days. I'm risking going off on one here, I'm so pissed off, so I'll stop now.



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Posted : 07/08/2009 10:25 am




marsha
(@marsha)
Noble Member

i was hopping to do this as its good practice for PD's event plus iv'e never
done a event like this before it's one you dont see alot





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Posted : 07/08/2009 10:28 am




(@bedsnherts)
Famed Member

TBH I think it's a whole combination of variables, most of which you don't find out until it's way too late.
Anyone who organises corporate events for a living will tell you that attendance is pretty much in the lap of the gods, however good (or bad) the event is.

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Posted : 07/08/2009 10:30 am




dieselmonkey
(@dieselmonkey)
Noble Member

"Cash strained times" don't seem to be affecting the £85+ weekend games, which, in my opinion, don't offer anywhere near as much as a CiA event. I mean, £40 or so isn't even the cost of a night out these days. I'm risking going off on one here, I'm so pissed off, so I'll stop now.

There is, though, a much larger player base for the 'casual' ww2 game, so even though those numbers have probably contracted too, there are still enough players to keep it running.

Annoying, but sadly true.

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Posted : 07/08/2009 10:30 am




Gary Barton
(@gary-barton)
Honorable Member

Lets not forget that for most of us it was the dates and nothing to do with not wanting to go full hard core maybe it would be a good idea to put a few different dates up to see which suits the numbers you need.So gutted for the people that wanted to do the event i for one was well up for it but both dates was a no go roll on next year and CIA dont worry you still are the best at what you do . :good:


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Posted : 07/08/2009 10:46 am




(@lardassmonkey)
Famed Member

Damn, I was looking forward to this as well. It should have been the event of the year! A real bugger about the eastern front game as well. The WW2 calender is starting to look very empty for the rest of the year. :(

I too can't understand how it failed to book up. Something as special as this should have been full in days. I know the date played a part in stopping people going who wanted to (almost enough to book up the germans by my count) but what happened to all the rest? I think the point about many ww2 players just wanting to play a skirmish in fancy kit may unfortunately be true.

I would have thought there might be a bit more support from the reeactment side of things as well. The event was right up their street and basically a dry run for PDs game in december. That seems to have sparked alot of interest but yet AFAIK there were non who showed any interest in this. I guess it remains to be seen if PD ends up in the same boat with lots of 'yes men' and few bookings.

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Posted : 07/08/2009 11:03 am




HeadShot
(@headshot)
Illustrious Member

maybe it would be a good idea to put a few different dates up to see which suits the numbers you need.

It's also more about our availability!! August Bank Holiday and this date were the only ones we could all make in the foreseeable future.

Also, there are a lot of new games (and sisks) being announced, so we had to work around those too.

So, from CiA it's a case of see you next year....unless we attend some of the other events, which I'll probably do. PD's for sure, if that goes ahead.



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Posted : 07/08/2009 11:04 am




Steiner
(@steiner_1609088194)
Illustrious Member

Pete (et al), I'm as disappointed as you mate, but the fact is that I can count at least 10 people who wanted to come as Germans but were unavailable on the date in question. So we could quite easily have had a 21 v 7 E&E game. Perhaps some (currently) non-airsoft types who attend PD's game in December might swell our numbers somewhat.

Despite the cancellation of these events for differing reasons, I still think CiA events are the best, and the undeniable success of Ariel - with people obeying their orders - made for the best game I have personally attended. So I'd just like to encourage the CiA top brass, who must be gutted at losing these two events - chin up men, we are right behind you.


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Posted : 07/08/2009 11:56 am




Sgt.Heide
(@sgt-heide)
Illustrious Member

I wasn't faulting the people who couldn't come because of holidays/work/family/reenactment events, etc. They're all valid reasons and a fair few had the decency to say "I can't make it because....". Who I AM faulting are the people who couldn't be arsed, because it might involve a bit of effort on their part and expose their shortcomings as people/airsofters/reenactors, call it what you will, I choose to call it "the walt factor".



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Posted : 07/08/2009 1:55 pm




(@lardassmonkey)
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The walt factor? Is that ITVs new reality show? :lol:

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Posted : 07/08/2009 2:07 pm




Sgt.Heide
(@sgt-heide)
Illustrious Member

The walt factor? Is that ITVs new reality show? :lol:

Good idea. I could think of a few who'd fit right into it.



When I want your opinion - I'll tell you what it is!

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Posted : 07/08/2009 2:09 pm




che
 che
(@che)
Noble Member

wtf sumerts not right here normaly you have to book in asap as the games fill up so quick. is it the fact theres no piss up . that the game seems to be to hard core :ghey: . or are the dates just bad . i dont know but im very dissapointed that the origanl game did not happen .but cheers to all you guys that piped up or booked. hang on ive got an idea.

theres nowt so Permanent as temporary




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Posted : 07/08/2009 8:24 pm




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