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(@woodlander)
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HOLLAND, a cloth so called from the country where it was first made. It was originally a fine plain linen fabric of a brownish colour - unbleached flax. Several varieties are now made: hollands, pale hollands and fine hollands. They are used for aprons, blinds, shirts, blouses and dresses.

the wwII stuff had a much finer weave, more like teabag perforations than sandbag.

Anything like this?

Got this from a haberdashers a few years back - started off as bleached flax (linen) but I lightly stained it back for a rawer, unbleached look. Can't remember if I stained it using tea or a coldwater dye, probably the latter.

 
Posted : 19/09/2008 5:13 pm
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ok,,,,, so how do you blanko holland cloth :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 
Posted : 19/09/2008 5:27 pm
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ok,,,,, so how do you blanko holland cloth :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl:

 
Posted : 19/09/2008 5:50 pm
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HOLLAND, a cloth so called from the country where it was first made. It was originally a fine plain linen fabric of a brownish colour - unbleached flax. Several varieties are now made: hollands, pale hollands and fine hollands. They are used for aprons, blinds, shirts, blouses and dresses.

the wwII stuff had a much finer weave, more like teabag perforations than sandbag.

Anything like this?

Got this from a haberdashers a few years back - started off as bleached flax (linen) but I lightly stained it back for a rawer, unbleached look. Can't remember if I stained it using tea or a coldwater dye, probably the latter.

Yup thats bang on.




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Posted : 19/09/2008 8:17 pm
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HOLLAND, a cloth so called from the country where it was first made. It was originally a fine plain linen fabric of a brownish colour - unbleached flax. Several varieties are now made: hollands, pale hollands and fine hollands. They are used for aprons, blinds, shirts, blouses and dresses.

the wwII stuff had a much finer weave, more like teabag perforations than sandbag.

Anything like this?

Got this from a haberdashers a few years back - started off as bleached flax (linen) but I lightly stained it back for a rawer, unbleached look. Can't remember if I stained it using tea or a coldwater dye, probably the latter.

Yup thats bang on.

Actually it might be a bit too fine, you should be able to see the weave from a distance but not as much as hessian.




"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."

 
Posted : 19/09/2008 8:18 pm
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Gadge, if you want to have a look at some just PM me your address and I'll pop a piece in the post.

 
Posted : 19/09/2008 8:35 pm
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Just a thought, hessian would be too coarse to store sugar, it would leak.

The peice of "Holland Linen Natural" from Whaleys was about 3" square - enough for four badges, mabe five, but I'm not going to use it until i know it's right. if it is, anyone is welcome to some once I've done mine.

I might go by the museum on my way to "pocket" next week and take a look, it's on the way. I'll see if they'll let me take a photo, their website does say you need permission.

 
Posted : 19/09/2008 9:21 pm
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If you tell them its for south staffords re-enacting group i doubt they will mind.
When you are there it might be worth picking up some spare cap badges as they are £3 each there.




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Posted : 19/09/2008 11:12 pm
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i think i am going to use a bit of a sainsburys hemp enviroment friendly shopping bag.

 
Posted : 20/09/2008 12:11 pm
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i think i am going to use a bit of a sainsburys hemp enviroment friendly shopping bag.

Just don't smoke the rest :rofl:

 
Posted : 20/09/2008 1:11 pm
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i think it looks ok, the fabric is backed with a clear plastic like film so it didnt fall apart when i cut it, i will bring it to pocket for you guys to scrutinise

 
Posted : 20/09/2008 3:54 pm
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I used exactly that for the scrim on my airborne lid :D An added bonus is that the huge printed ladybirds are good summer meadow camouflage :good:

 
Posted : 21/09/2008 10:44 am
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I used exactly that for the scrim on my airborne lid :D An added bonus is that the huge printed ladybirds are good summer meadow camouflage :good:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 
Posted : 21/09/2008 12:12 pm
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new question. as a lad on P COY , it was illegal to sew up the shit flap on a parachute smock. after passing out it was ok aslong as it was with only minimal stitches so it could be pulled down when needed. can this be done with rangercamp dennys?

 
Posted : 22/09/2008 2:49 pm
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new question. as a lad on P COY , it was illegal to sew up the shit flap on a parachute smock. after passing out it was ok aslong as it was with only minimal stitches so it could be pulled down when needed. can this be done with rangercamp dennys?

It'd be easy enough to stitch, but i just fastened one of the 'shit flap' :lol: poppers to the adjuster popper on one side, and it kept it out of the way no problem.

 
Posted : 22/09/2008 3:12 pm
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yep, i have done that too evo ( saw all the re-enactors doing it at corby) but i think they would have done it in barracks(sew them up) . being glider troops we dont have to worry about the fall lifting our smocks over our heads .i have spoken to ww2 paratroop vets who have said they cut them off after landing as they are a nuicence( spelling) in battle. you do see pics of them hanging down, also picks of them missing so i am guessing its a personal thing.

 
Posted : 22/09/2008 3:22 pm
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I just secure mine on the inside with a couple of safety pins

 
Posted : 22/09/2008 3:37 pm
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I just secure mine on the inside with a couple of safety pins

light bulb going on moment thank you woodlander :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 
Posted : 22/09/2008 3:56 pm
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I just secure mine on the inside with a couple of safety pins

Yes but are they "Newey" safety pins? :rofl:



When I want your opinion - I'll tell you what it is!

 
Posted : 22/09/2008 4:52 pm
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Correctly dated safety pins from an opened field dressing, made by Johnson & Johnson......

....... NOT! :lol: :D

 
Posted : 22/09/2008 5:23 pm
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