Reference to PLI costing between £500 and £1000, depending on risks.
http://medievalnews.blogspot.com/2007/0 ... e-war.html
Perkins Slade insurers
http://www.perkins-slade.com/historical-societies.aspx
Access Insurance
http://www.accessinsurance.co.uk/docs/B ... oposal.pdf
HSE guidelines for weapons use
http://www.conisbroughcastle.org.uk/Oth ... etis20.pdf
HSE quidelines on explosive use
http://www.hse.gov.uk/explosives/inform ... ooting.htm
HSE guidelines on hazardous productions
http://www.conisbroughcastle.org.uk/Oth ... etis17.pdf
English Heritage's guideline
http://www.conisbroughcastle.org.uk/Gui ... ormers.PDF
For the record, NT and English Heritage require at least £5 million and preferably £10 million PLI cover for filming on their properties.
£5 million is pretty much standard PLI now, my own business policy is 
Is is just me or is insurance legalised extortion - everything is covered multiple times and still they try and wriggle out of it. On the flip side, my best performing shares are in the insurance industry 
Quoted from Frenchie:
The forms required for skirmish sites to register on the UKARA database should be posted within the next 24 hours at http://www.ukara.org.uk We would urge all sites who are interested to download & fill these in as a matter of urgency.
Player forms will follow shortly thereafter. Can I please make a request regarding the registration of players: It is not necessary for all players to have their details on the database prior to October 1st. Indeed, an attempt to log everyone before that date will cause a mountain of work for all concerned. Since the VCRA only applies to the purchase & sale of complete RIFs, players may consider it sensible to submit their completed forms only when they are buying a new gun. If they wish, they may submit their form whan making any purchase from a UKARA retailer, as we will be dealing with their details then anyway, an adding them to the database will be a matter of only a few minutes extra work.
There is no dedicated team of data-entry clerks waiting for your forms!
ASCUK (and other forums should they ask) will be granted access to the database under strictly controlled circumstances to enable them to continue second-hand sales. At present I can only speak to how this forum intends to handle this, and I am sure that Fluffy, Beaker et al will announce their plans shortly.
The UKARA website has been reworked and improved and any retailers wishing to join UKARA will find a revised application form on-line.
I shall also reiterate what the UKARA scheme does & doesn't do;
It does not make you a legitimate skirmisher - only membership of a properly insured site or club can do that. The database simply makes it easier for retailers to confirm that status and for you to buy from the retailer of your choice.
It does not give you the right to skirmish - that is unaffected by the Act.
You do not have to purchase a RIF once a year, but if no query is logged against a player for 365 days from the date of entry onto the database, the players record will be suspended and they will have to submit a new form. This is to prevent charges of "lifetime access".
My italics.
Thanks for the info... sounds like things are in place.
I reckon the way to go for us if we want to do this is to have a private forum for gun sales that is only accessible to users that undergo a check-up with the UKARA database.
I see Frenchie mentioned in passing 're-enacters' on one of his posts on Arnies (more useful discussion on there as banned chaps can talk - hell, even Aitch is on there!) - so your work with him Kermit looks to have moved on a bit.
Does it strike you as odd that no one has replied to Guy's post on wwiireenacting forum? (OK, it did sound a bit nooby )
But even so, there is no concrete information on the site at all. Lots of 'you ought to get this and that'. But from whom and how much? What the hell is a reenacting group? And do they differ from 'living history'. Or are they public entertainers?
Public Liability Insurance is cheap in itself (i.e. protecting from being sued by third parties) but I doubt anyone would sell it to you on it's own. I imagine living history is cheaper to insure (no explosives, blanks, battles) - what we do does carry higher risk. And with risk comes risk assessments. This could turn out to be a nightmare..
I'm not surprised in the least that no-one on Pozzi's forum has bothered replying. That place is to Re-enactment, what ASSCOCK is to Airsoft.
"Living History" is merely a flash term for "re-enactment".
Regarding Risk Assessments, I do them for work, and i've done them when I ran FFR and FFC. Compared to the ones I do for work, Airsoft ones are easy. Little chance of vapourising or decapitating someone at Airsoft compared to the 9 to 5 lol
When we were a Kingdom it was run by a King
When we were an Empire it was run by an Empress
Now we're a country we're run by a..........
Regarding Kermit's examples-being-made-of insider information.
Anything we should know about so we can distance ourselves from any potential fallout? (No need for names if it's hush-hush of course)
Nah, we dont have anything to worry about. It's market stall traders they're going after first.
When we were a Kingdom it was run by a King
When we were an Empire it was run by an Empress
Now we're a country we're run by a..........
I note assock have shut down their second hand sales forums .
They did that a while ago...
Actually they only shut down the gun forums... the accessory forums are still there.
I wonder if we should do anything similar???
CW reckons not and i tend ot agree.
Mind you first person posting a gun for sale I intend ot challenge how he knows the buyer is a bone fide softer 
For now it may be worth while putting a quick statement up as a sticky?
Perhaps something like:
"Whilst we've decided not to stop the sale of RIFs on here, we will want to make sure that users selling on here understand that under the VCRA they must be able to provide evidence that they have checked that anyone they sell to is a bone-fide airsofter as defined by the Home office"
Summat like that...
I also think we should be VERY strict on who and what is allowed to be sold... don't. We want this forum to become the replacement ASCUK aeg sales section do we!
Other options are to allow RIF sales only in a Hidden/Private forum and be only accessible by users that have proven to us that they are bone-fide airsofters? i.e. we have physically seen the proof...
Aye, keep it going.
I drafted a sticky a while back but can't find it now . I would change your wording to remove reference to ourselves and any interpretation of the law:
"Whilst we have decided not to stop the sale of Realistic Imitation Firearms (RIFs) on this forum, please note that as from 1st October 2007 the Violent Crimes Reduction Act severely restricts who and what you can sell to other people. It is the seller's responsibility to ensure that sales complies with current legislation."
Agree with maintaining a tight reign on what can be sold but I don't mind an increase in traffic - this is a service to the community!
No need to hide or privatise sales - only looks devious and it's not up to us to prove who is or isn't bone fide. Seller beware!
okay... someone post it then...
Okay, I did! I added a note to it as well...
Dave, I locked the topic to avoid any endless pontification.
Hope that's OK.
