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Possibly because of the nature of the attack? From a single position heading towards obvious objectives with little chance of getting disoriented.

Plus it was a nice warm sunny day!

I'm not 100% convinced that command structure and unit designation has that much to do with it, but it certainly helps.



 
Posted : 10/08/2007 12:04 pm
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Its all about clarity

If people know firmly what group they are in and what they are expected to do that have a better day.

being vague leads to confused players, leads to bimbling about and eventual disinterest.

Its hard to be motivated if you dont know what you're supposed to be doing, with who, when.

One of the successes of arnhme was *beacuse* i had sections i could breif the ncos on their taks and then they briefed the sqaud.

So i only had to have the attention held of four people nto 30, they had to get eight to ten guys to listen not twenty.

Much harder to start up a conversation , piss about with your weapon and generally not listen to the brief is there are only four of you in the room, listen tot a breif in a gaggle of 30 and 25 per cent are not paying attention.

Safety briefs being a point in hand....

Again not a wild theory, hard fact.

Its why platoon commanders dont stand in front of a whole platoon and brief people , they brief three section comanders, who then disseminate.

You brief everyone and half the team end up getting confused as to what their objective is.

Clarity & cohesion = better experience for everyone

confused players start mucking about




"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."

 
Posted : 10/08/2007 12:18 pm
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Hah!

At CR I stood there explained to EVERYONE, not just section leaders, what they needed to do, told them that the timings of attacks and RVs, gave them specific areas to patrol and recon (even handing out pencils and paper to those who forgot it), split them into side specific 8 man units, told them all to write down what they needed to do, gave them the crib sheets about how to regen and reform, took a time out at RV to re-iterate what we needed to do and how.....and they still all fucked off.

I also think there's a little bit of psychology in what it takes to dress up as a German. It takes a little extra resolve to be a German and defend any potential criticism rather than going for a socially and morally more comfortable representation such as an Ally. Therefore they have that tiny bit more resolve when it comes to walking about in the rain for a day or two.



 
Posted : 10/08/2007 12:29 pm
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Maybe cos you did it for everyone, not small groups, in a big group its easy to assume others will do the work.

Again its not rocket science, its just the way i was trained to do it and its done that way cos it works with squaddies with a reading age of 11..




"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."

 
Posted : 10/08/2007 12:31 pm
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Whereas we had ad-hoc squads with no more brief than do what your squad leader tells you to do! (More or less :wink: )

 
Posted : 10/08/2007 12:32 pm
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I can't 'kin win here can I?

I either briefed them too much, or not enough, or briefed too many people at once, or didn't brief enough people, or whatever.

Maybe it's just a case of too many chiefs, not enough Indians on the Allied side so everyone thinks they can do it better. I certainly had quite a few conversations along the lines of 'why aren't we doing this, or that' with people who didn't have a hand in the organisation. Some weren't willing to follow orders. (I'm talking about Oddball, Spiers, et al here).



 
Posted : 10/08/2007 12:33 pm
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

For what it's worth I felt so sorry for you Stephen - you were on a hiding to nothing there. You deserved much, much better.

Anyhoo, that's the past - let's move on!!

 
Posted : 10/08/2007 12:36 pm
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😆 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

For what it's worth I felt so sorry for you Stephen - you were on a hiding to nothing there. You deserved much, much better.

Anyhoo, that's the past - let's move on!!

Ditto, there are some reet bell ends amongst the allies . We've not suffered the same on our side.

 
Posted : 10/08/2007 12:38 pm
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Apart from you guys of course.... :wink: :ghey-fight:



 
Posted : 10/08/2007 12:57 pm
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