A intersting vid if you speak Russian 
The storm engineers wore it with camoflarge.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GdJtVAmcCBs
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I saw some awesome kit at the Victory show 
can't remember half of it though cos they forced me to drink vast amounts of vodka 
dang those ruski's
I saw some awesome kit at the Victory show
No caviar?
If its passed 9 there is a 95% chance im pissed.
I saw some awesome kit at the Victory show
No caviar?
A) you don't drink caviar
B) they were doing an ostfront display hardly think the food of the footsoldier would have been caviar
C) fish eggs are rank no iffs buts or anything EWWWWWWWWW
I saw some awesome kit at the Victory show
No caviar?
A) you don't drink caviar
B) they were doing an ostfront display hardly think the food of the footsoldier would have been caviar
C) fish eggs are rank no iffs buts or anything EWWWWWWWWW
I heard that they had loads of caviar,never had it myself.
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I heard that they had loads of caviar,never had it myself.
Its an acquired taste and not to my liking, you can buy cheap stuff to try in tescos did they have vast amounts of it? I don't know am not up on Ruski but if it was there and you're hungry you'd eat anything I guess, its never anywhere I think been the cheap choice of food stuff though, I'll let you research the caviar claim and post a link I'd be interested to see but busy looking up other stuff.
I heard that they had loads of caviar,never had it myself.
Its an acquired taste and not to my liking, you can buy cheap stuff to try in tescos
Well to tell the truth i got it of Enemy at the gates 
When Bob Hoskins is going 'vodka is a luxary we have,Caviar is a luxary we have TIME IS NOT!!!!! Also i fancy some cheap fish eggs 
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knife through butter !!
Most likely as Del says, however a holey armour plate doesn't mean it didn't serve some purpose. You'd need to fire at it yourself and see if it makes a dint or a hole, I guess I'm trying to say if they're original holes from the day back when, surely its possibly that over the years IF (big un) the metal was weakened then the holes could have appeared some time after due to corrosion rather than it was a completely useless bit of kit.
If if were useless though, you'd think the Ruskies would have picked up on it and taken the choice not to wear it, if its as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Any more info on this ?
Plate armour was worn in the first wwi too, its useful against shell fragments and sub velocity debris.
You just have to weigh up the pros and cons of mobility vs protection.
Modern body armour (rarley) stops rifle round sit just holds you together better until you reach a casualry clearing station.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Plate armour was worn in the first wwi too, its useful against shell fragments and sub velocity debris.
You just have to weigh up the pros and cons of mobility vs protection.
Modern body armour (rarley) stops rifle round sit just holds you together better until you reach a casualry clearing station.
The new osprey body armor stops rifle rounds.
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Kevlar might stop a rifle round, but you'd still get massive thoracic trauma (if hit in the chest, obviously) from the dent it makes.
Plate armour was worn in the first wwi too, its useful against shell fragments and sub velocity debris.
You just have to weigh up the pros and cons of mobility vs protection.
Modern body armour (rarley) stops rifle round sit just holds you together better until you reach a casualry clearing station.
The new osprey body armor stops rifle rounds.
Yeah mate you keep believing that.... 
The ceramic plate will, unfortunatley the rest of it wont, and as said the blunt trauma if it does will be massive...
Body armour minimises damge its not bullet proof.
Heres the science bit:
65+ per cent of battle casualties come from 'sub velocity fragments' thats bits of bomb casing, paving stones, house bricks and fenceposts thrown up my a blast... two foot of picket fence going at 30 miles an hour will ripa hole in you as well as any bullet.
Body amrour stops that, as does the helmet.
Now being wrapped in a big kevlar body warmer does mean that wehn a round goes in with an entry wound lie a five pence it doens go out with an exit wound like a cd... at least it keeps the bits that would have sprayed across the field on you and in contact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_vest
Yor best bet is to paint a bullseye on the plate carrier....
having worn CBA i woudl not trust it to stop 7.62... i sincerley doubt Osprey woudl either but i'm very happpy to be proved wrong.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
I remember reading an account by a German officer about the use of the Russian Plate armour.
He mentioned his position was shelled with smoke, so he and his men made ready for the imminent attack. As the Russians charged through the smoke he was horrified to discover that his pistol did not harm them as if they were ghosts.
The German WW1 helmets allowed for a protective plate to be hooked on the front of it. There are several examples at the Passchendaele museum of other forms of personal armour.
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Yup, a suprisingly few ammount of fatalities come from rifle bullets in a war, if you can handle the reduced mobility and extra load its worth doing in static positions.
Problem is it *seriously* impairs your ability to fight a mobile war, its why us troops in vietnam arer rarley seen wearing the flak vest or even rarer stil the flak shorts unless they are entrenched.
UK airborne were issued MRC body armour for arnhem, it was uspposed to be worn *under* the clothes but wearing it could break your ribs on landing so it wasnt very popular.
http://www.motion-picture-props.com/pho ... rfront.jpg
http://www.motion-picture-props.com/pho ... urback.jpg
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
How fantastically heath-robinson is that British armour - very, err, British!
Now, I'm very curious. I can understand the top front plate to protect the heart/lungs, but why was is considered necessary to protect the nadgers and lower back? Why nothing to protect the chest from fire from the rear?
Becasue its to protect vitals from shell fragments not bullets.
I can only suppose that the medical research council thught your kideneys would be ripped in two by a shell splinter but your scapula protect your upper back.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
either way, i think i'd prefer to be mobile than fragment proof! Ideally, id like to not be shot at at all
considering im only likely to be hit by small pieces of plastic i think ill take my chances,lol. Though the plate armour does make for an interesting showpiece at a ww2 airsoft event, I doubt many if any other people would have any!
Who was that British gentleman again....He wore two sets of body armour...and was killed by a bullet to the head.
Recently came across a picture of 3 British soldiers inspecting a captured MG08 in WW1. They're wearing captured German body armour.
ah...here it is.
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i saw a young soldier killed in NI simply becouse a round went in his waist but couldnt get back out again,,,,,,,, it just kept bouncing around inside his vest till it ran out of steam,,,,, he was litteraly riddled from the inside. very sobering .
