Being new to the scene and being something other than an "assault" guy (support gunner in normal airsoft) i've been looking at different roles i can fulfil within a team.
During my research I came across the 2 inch british mortar, which i think i can fairely easily physrep being a metal tube with a footplate and a wooden handle, but the question i have, is how the heck would i get this to work in the game?
My first option was using a gas moscart with metal tubing to fire Mk5 Flash Bangs but i'm not sure how viable this is.
After watching Youtube i've seen some events using "artillery" with three stage flash grenades being launched, but i'm not sure how pratical, or economicaly viable it would be to use this, or even if most events would allow them.
just how practical is the idea of taking to the field with an "effective" 2 inch mortar?
There are a load of threads about this in the weapons section do a search for mortar/ bazooka etc.
I would give you some advice on this but from recent games I have been to things may have changed or some ideas may not wish to be talked about on here.
H&S is the big problem with all this as well as all the many fire arms laws that have been discussed in depth on this subject.
Take a look at the Carentan game thread! 
Look here
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My first option was using a gas moscart with metal tubing to fire Mk5 Flash Bangs but i'm not sure how viable this is.
Technically that's easy but would you ever be allowed to use it in a game? Not a chance in hell - no site operator/game organiser would allow a punter to bring and use something like that. CiA have a mortar for pyro (as do other organisers/sites) it is specifically designed for the purpose, and uses rounds that are designed and manufactured to meet the requirements of any applicable legislation. These rounds are not available to the general public.
Regarding a moscart firing 2" mortar, PM Dieselmonkey, he's built a very nice one already!
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I picked up a 2nd hand repro. I think its one from relics.
I've put a small firing pin in it (a screw head) and now it fires moscarts.
I won't be launching Mk5s from it... EVER.
Yup, as the others have mentioned, I've fabricated a replica out of real-steel that fires CO2 moscarts. I've tested it a few times, and it's got a range of 20m or so, indirect, so it has some tactical use in-game.
As it's heavy-gauge steel it's also feasible to use it in an game role for PBI games with pyro, but as i'm not pyro-trained, that's not going to happen in the immediate future, and like Kermit said, it'd be as part of the scenario/game, and not just as a player operated weapon.
That said, if you do join PBI as a member, you're welcome to use mine as a support weapon in a Moscart firing role, as i've already got too many roles on the field (organiser/runner/target depending on game!) as it is!
anyway, on to the pics. can't find any of it painted on this PC, but here's some of the finished item, before it got sprayed up:
bringing it to training day evo? i missed it last time( was getting a cup of tea)
bringing it to training day evo? i missed it last time( was getting a cup of tea)
Yeah, we want to test it's usefulness for Op. Lightning, so it'll be coming along. I'll make sure you're around this time!
My first option was using a gas moscart with metal tubing to fire Mk5 Flash Bangs but i'm not sure how viable this is.
Technically that's easy but would you ever be allowed to use it in a game? Not a chance in hell - no site operator/game organiser would allow a punter to bring and use something like that. CiA have a mortar for pyro (as do other organisers/sites) it is specifically designed for the purpose, and uses rounds that are designed and manufactured to meet the requirements of any applicable legislation. These rounds are not available to the general public.
Regarding a moscart firing 2" mortar, PM Dieselmonkey, he's built a very nice one already!
realy? i've seen something in use at a Stirling event in the past. (granted, it was to represent a rpg)
Yup, as the others have mentioned, I've fabricated a replica out of real-steel that fires CO2 moscarts. I've tested it a few times, and it's got a range of 20m or so, indirect, so it has some tactical use in-game.
As it's heavy-gauge steel it's also feasible to use it in an game role for PBI games with pyro, but as i'm not pyro-trained, that's not going to happen in the immediate future, and like Kermit said, it'd be as part of the scenario/game, and not just as a player operated weapon.
That said, if you do join PBI as a member, you're welcome to use mine as a support weapon in a Moscart firing role, as i've already got too many roles on the field (organiser/runner/target depending on game!) as it is!
That, Sir, is a thing of beauty
I may well take you up on that. Yes, i'm looking to join the BPI (it was, after Gadge who got my interested in airsoft all those years ago) but wont be operational until i get my bonus in april.
just out of curiosity with the replica, you did remember the white line up the barrel?
just out of curiosity with the replica, you did remember the white line up the barrel?
yep, and as per the refurbished original i copied it off, it's on the wrong side! 
It needs respraying actually, and you've just reminded me, cheers!
just out of curiosity with the replica, you did remember the white line up the barrel?
yep, and as per the refurbished original i copied it off, it's on the wrong side!
It needs respraying actually, and you've just reminded me, cheers!
Ah, i see you got the "Digger's" version 
Excellent repro dieselmonkey! Looks as good as my deact after i'd stripped it 
Danny
Hi everyone, i'm very new to the concept of airsoft as I am this site so excuse me if say anything that has already been covered. I find this mortar subject interesting as a couple of years ago I experimented with trying to build a non-pyro mortar in an attempt to create a confetti delivery system for a completely non war orientated project. The first attempt was using a lightweight foam projectile propelled out of a scaffold pipe using a workshop compressor system linked to the sealed end of the pipe to build up enough air pressure. This system produced poor results as it was dependant on a nice airtight fit between the pipe and the projectile making reloading a slow process. I next experimented with making my own projectile (basically the prototype was a thick plastic bottle with fins) loaded with co2 to propel itself out of the tube. The projectile was capped with rubber cork and pin eliminating the need for some sort of air pressure system attached to the mortar itself. This revealed disappointing results until a friend suggested I fill the bottle half with water and then build up the pressure like an old bottle rocket. This worked especially well as the projectile lost weight as it travelled meaning by the time it fell it had lost most of its potential to do damage while being able to travel a good distance. I’m wandering, in any way whether this technique could be employed to create a safe to use mortar system for these kinds of games. Is there no way you could somehow attach a padded moscart to the tip for when it lands? How heavy are moscarts? Would the water being expelled be a problem? My understanding is that at this time CiA has no intention of using such devices but I would love to hear all your thoughts and ideas.
All thoughts and ideas have been extensively covered before, if you do a search - very little point going over it all over again. Projectile launching systems are limited by legality and what is acceptable in-game and to other players. Solutions to this conundrum are already in place.
