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Moss
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Recently I've heard that Ares are listening to airsofters regarding what they want, so I was thinking that maybe if we can get a petition going, we could contact Ares and ask if they could make the following using sub 350 FPS VSR based or any reliable spring internals:
Lee Enfield No1 Mk3
Lee Enfield No4 Mk1
K98k
Springfield M1903
Mosin Nagant 1891/30
And any other WW2 bolties we might desire!

So how's about it then?

 
Posted : 02/01/2013 12:03 am
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Well I'm up the the idea.
I think Ares have been pumping out some vsr based kit recently in more modern formats so why not some historic kit. Plus they're doing that garand aeg so some others may actually be on their list to produce.

 
Posted : 06/01/2013 11:53 am
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Sounds good although I'd stick to these guns just to keep it focused. Also they might have more of a mass market appeal and therefore possibly be more sensible for ARES to make. :)

Lee enfield No 4. Mark 1
Kar98
Mosin Nagant

 
Posted : 06/01/2013 6:39 pm
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Yeah its just I was thinking that the No1 Mk3 is more iconic and the Springfield would appeal to the US market more, I had a much bigger list and I thought the ones on the OP most likely to sell :good:
[EDIT] Does the forum have an official Email address as it would probably come across better if that was used to Email Ares?

 
Posted : 06/01/2013 9:18 pm
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Dont mean to piss on your Bonfire guys, but do you not think if it was worth it for them in a bussiness sense they would allready have done it?
I mean how well have pervious WW2 Bolties Sold? unlike the SMG's or STG's they wouldnt be as popular amoung the modern and (unfortuneatly) much larger market.
But if your going to organise a mass email to Ares or any other companies im game..



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Posted : 06/01/2013 10:13 pm
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But none of the other bolties have been VSR based springers so there hasn't been as much demand for them :wink: but its good to know your on board :good:

 
Posted : 06/01/2013 10:31 pm
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Think it always a good idea to approach companies as a group when offering suggestions but also if you give them too much scope for choice they won't see it from a commercial point.
So seen as the american players are getting a rifle already then probably best to aim it at the other two largest section of players, German and brits. So k98 and Enfield.
If they do listen to their market then we can go on from there and get an aeg g43 & m1 carbine :happyclap: then everyone will be happy! Well I would anyway :giggle:

 
Posted : 06/01/2013 10:43 pm
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team shoot and scoot, TL

 
Posted : 06/01/2013 11:23 pm
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Yeah by that logic the K98k and the Lee Enfield do sound good, I think I'm the only WW2 airsofter who forgot that ICS and G&G were doing garands, I think we should go with these two and they'll probably be more likely to make them, I was just thinking it would be good to suggest something that would cover more markets, anyway its good that more people are getting on board :good:

 
Posted : 06/01/2013 11:33 pm
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ha you beat me to it. lets not destroy shoot and scoots business (let china believe that the only Enfield is that monstrously priced one that got released)

i would prefer they focus on making better spring based kar98, be it VSR based or something as reliable. As the options at the moment are either prohibitively expensive or difficult to make to the beginner/normal airsofter (marushin and diy project VSR ones), or to high powered/inconsistent fps (that g&g co2/gas one), or just plain c**p and/or impractical (shell ejecting "thing" )

a possibly better and easier option for the k98, is maybe getting RAtec to make an npas for the G&G one would be a better idea? (i don' t know how the bolt works on that gun so might not be an option) or is it regulated by the valve on the magazine ? (help >_<) either way it should be stupidly easy for them to sort something out.

Then again going back to shoot and scoot as they stated they just upgraded their workshop and it is opening up new possibilities for them maybe one day they might be able to produce their own type of k98 based on something. We can’t rule them out of the picture. 😉

As for getting them to do other guns that would be cool to see. Things like the Springfield, a more practical Nagant with actual magazines or the Italian rifle ....I don’t know about a French one, it might be handy to kick off WW1 airsoft or just give the re-enactors something.

Well that is my 2p

 
Posted : 07/01/2013 8:08 am
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I'm on board with the Kar 98 and Springfield idea to be honest! Also the idea of a m1a1 carbine sounds good :)

So yea I'm in!! :)



 
Posted : 07/01/2013 12:28 pm
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Can we just have the considerably more common M1 carbine in aeg format instead please. ;)

 
Posted : 07/01/2013 2:10 pm
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I'd settle for the m1 Yith, in just being picky :wink:



 
Posted : 07/01/2013 2:54 pm
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M1 would be a lot easier... as then there'd be room for a battery! :)

Hmmm... though the position of the oiler bottle in the stock doesn't exactly help...

I'd be happy for an external battery in a carbine mag pouch attached to the stock...

 
Posted : 07/01/2013 3:11 pm
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Well the thread is about VSR based rifles, so this has kinda gone off topic, on the note of shoot and scoot, although warrens Enfields are very nice, they're quite expensive, and I wanted to see if anyone else could do them cheaper, which would make getting into the hobby easier.

 
Posted : 07/01/2013 3:55 pm
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Just one point we all know S&S have been devotly supplying springer enfields to the ww2 community for a long time, and fair play to them, but dont think that is a valied point for not wanting more to be made as if there is a choice of supplyer surely that will be beneficial for us the buyers. I mean if just because one person makes them then nbody else should why are there 700+ M4 makes/models/and styles out there? Sorry if i have gone off on one but point put across.

 
Posted : 07/01/2013 9:25 pm
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I know what you're saying but I'm chatting to warren about his new No.4's and to be honest I'd be much happier and it'd be better to keep him in business as he is in the ww2 airsoft community.

edited as I got my words mixed up the first time :slap:

 
Posted : 08/01/2013 9:05 pm
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Thank you for respecting my viewpoint, I duly expected to be jumped on by some for saying that, and I also respect your stance. I suppose the best way to put it is everyone should be able to pay their money and take their choice but only if there is a choice available. :good:

 
Posted : 08/01/2013 10:17 pm
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Perfectly agree mate :good:

 
Posted : 08/01/2013 10:21 pm
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bigkie, me to matey :)
1 or 2 options is allways best,

thats another reason why i decided to do a lower priced range and the time i,v freed up from stopping building the support guns has allowed me to do this.
there will be other options as well,,, re k98 and springfields, i,v made a good number of these allso btw but havant sold them on the website only to local WW2 players,
but they will come :)

team shoot and scoot, TL

 
Posted : 08/01/2013 10:51 pm
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