MG34 sights

ris rails are banned from CIA games.... ask chommers they are his pet hate .

ris rails are banned from CIA games.... ask chommers they are his pet hate .

And quite rightly too. I also think an M4 isn't ideally suited for attempting an MG34 conversion from. There's plenty of more appropriate alternatives.

but to be honest, im 15. so modelling guns for a game i MIGHT go too in 3 years time is not really practical.

but the M4 does seem avaliabe, PVC pipe barrel with holes in drilled black, stock from an M14, drum magazine for a M4 from www.airsoftscotland.co.uk, bipod of L96 (i have the bits to fit it too tube), if i know what im going to do, does it really sound impossible?

Rob

oh i havnt thought it through because im 15?? i hate people like you who judge people on age, that sort of thing really p*sses me off, its just stereotypical rubbish

At your age, I suppose it IS practical to use an M4 (ie, you're not old enough to play a CiA game). Building any type of WW2 gun can only be good practice for when you're old enough to join our ranks at CiA.

What you need to understand, is that a huge amount of WW2 gamers are trying to escape from M4's and boxmags and "modern" gaming (with all of its' walts and geardos), so any mention of them brings us out in shudders. It's nothing personal on Hopeless' part, I'm sure.

sorry, i just get really annoyed when people automatically assume that because im 15, im not as good as them.

i have 2 full autos, an AK47 and an M4, with the M4 all i have to do is screw more parts to it, and seeming as the bits i need arnt very expensive then im going to give it a go and see how it turns out

Rob

no one is having a go at you mate, like my friend heide said a bit of practise gunsmithing can only help you for the future, we learn by doing. BUT this is ww2 airsoft, the bones of it are the authentisity of the period, just bunging a few AEG bits together with a hot glue gun does not an MG 42 make , why not go down the road spears did? only saw his wood and metal .30 cal fleetingly at augtumn mist but it looked like a .30 1919 , not like a load of modern bits clumped together. i am a 40 year old joiner/kitchen fitter with years of experience, but i would baulk at trying to make an MG 42 , even with a fully quipped joiners shop . i am a big fan of the KISS system. dont take this as criticism its not.

mmm but how would i be able to turn an M4 or an AK47 into a .30cal? magazine feed etc will all have to be done, and seeming as AKs triger systems broken atm, il crack it open and see what i can do with it

Cheers, i really do appreciate all help given...and sorry for my rant earlier

Rob

The only point at which age comes into it is with regards to the Violent Crimes Reduction Act.....

The only point at which age comes into it is with regards to the Violent Crimes Reduction Act.....

Which is a different subject for a different thread haha

Any criticism you receive on here is mostly constructive mate, and it is nothing to do with age there are quite a few under 18's on the forum.
In your defence, there is a thread somewhere on the weapons subforum with someone who was considering building an MG34 based on a M4, do a search for it and see how it looks.
A lot of members like WW2 airsoft because they have discovered how ridiculously shit modern airsofting is. You might as well do paintball as do modern airsofting. It's the same principle with a different method of delivery. WW2 isn't just a blatfest where you pour as many rounds down range as possible at anything that moves. RIS rails are associated with that and aren't exactly looked upon fondly.
However! You DO need to think about how you are going to do it rather than just saying a bit of tubing here, a bit of plastic there; because you're going to end up with what is probably going to fall apart as soon as you look at it. As an example, with the 30.Cal it took A LOT of time to get the barrel fixed to an extent where I was confident that it wasn't going to simply break off with the slightest bump. the second problem I ran in to was the sight, I was fortunate that the M60 uses a sight which is based on the 30.Cal sight so I was able to use that.
Third problem was the lid and eventually someone made that for me out of ally.
So my suggestion would be to get lots of pictures of an MG34, study them and from that figure out a way of doing EVERYTHING you need to do, before you even start contemptalting things like what mag you're going to buy etc. If you make it look good then people will commend you for it, but jamming stuff together and whacking bits and bobs on an RIS rail, then you will receive criticism.
Hope this helps mate, it's not your age it's your eagerness, take a step back and look at what you want to do first, do some research.

On another note, done properly I think MG34 would look mint. Goodluck with it.

but the M4 does seem avaliabe, PVC pipe barrel with holes in drilled black, stock from an M14, drum magazine for a M4 from http://www.airsoftscotland.co.uk , bipod of L96 (i have the bits to fit it too tube), if i know what im going to do, does it really sound impossible?

Everything you've listed so far does not lend itself to the MG34; just not practical and I don't think you've really thought it through in the slightest...

And a little visit to a different topic later produces this piece from Joker (who I assume is a well known figure amongst the forums)

It would appear you've over-stepped the mark on the zealous front...

That's what I was talking about, not bad for what it is and not far off with a bit more detail.

well iv chucked the idea in and im going to follow in your footsteps spiers im planning on making a wood .30 cal using P90 internals, its on another thread

Rob

I know it may sound a bit stoopid but what are RIS rails please ?

Accessory mounting system found on modern guns:

The only point at which age comes into it is with regards to the Violent Crimes Reduction Act.....

Which is a different subject for a different thread haha

[MOD hat on]

Sadly Spiers, it isn't for a different thread - it is VERY relevant. The OP has stated before now that he is 15 years of age. At that age you cannot even buy an IF, let alone a RIF. Is the OP able to make use of any of the defences against prosecution under the VCRA for the manufacture of a RIF? (which is what this is)

If the OP cannot *confirm* that he is able to make use of the "skirmishing" defence (or any other relevant defence) then the future of this thread is doubtful as he is quite simply breaking the law. End of story.

[/MOD hat off]

At the time when I made the comment the legality and validity of the OP was not under scrutiny and merely meant that the VCRA is discussed in depth in many other threads and was trying to steer clear of the subject to maintain the relevance of the thread to the subject.

Now however it is very relevant and my comment becomes void.

Accessory mounting system found on modern guns:

Aha - many thanks

Tsch .. .15 year olds making RIFs.. what ever next tuttut.

Sadly mate that is good old "New Labour" for you ..can stop real guns so ban all toy ones..meanwhile your generation can still by the real tihng on the streets of many large cities...

Anyway ..30 Cals are soooooo common ...if you can get some enthusiasm check out this 50 cal I made a while ago .

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2305&p=37406#p37406

There are going to be something like 3 or 4 30.Cals on the American side by mid next year...

Where did the 50.Cal end up anyway? Have you still got it?