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 Yith
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Yeah, wtf is the little string about? And he didn't get many bbs in there did he?

 
Posted : 24/01/2011 11:39 pm
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It's exactly the same loading system as the KTW MN. I hope it isn't a full KTW clone because the internals reportedly suck on that one.

 
Posted : 25/01/2011 2:35 am
Graeme
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Right, having picked one up and dismantled it in Airsoft World before even paying for it, heres my finding.

Externally; Its wood, steel, or brass. Bayonet is plastic obviously, but otherwise, no plastic here! It's seriously fucking solid. Like, really solid. Compared it to my own real mosin, other than the woodwork(like most airsoft stuff), its near perfect.

Internally - this is where it gets really fucking good! Take it out its woodwork(which is a bit of a chore to be honest, but easy enough once you know how), and you're greeted with more steel....lots of it. The only plastic components on this weapon are its internal magazine and its bayonet. Remove the magazine and you'll be able to screw the outer barrel(including the inner barrel and hop unit) off the receiver. The outer barrel is two lumps of turned steel welded together(err...solid...).

The hop unit is a solid lump of alluminium, which takes an AEG barrel and hop rubber(already swapped for a madbull blue!). The barrel looks to be a chromed brass tightbore. It adjusts by means of a screw on the top of the hop unit. Two grub screws lock onto the outer barrel, so it wont shift!

The cylinder is steel, steel and more steel. Bolt handle is steel also, welded onto the cylinder. Cylinder head is a very deep(coming on an inch in depth) brass head, far far beefier than a vsr one. Inside the cylinder you're greeted with an alluminium piston head with a steel pin(which is part of the sear mechanism) out the back end. The complete trigger unit(everything, absolutely everything) is steel. Looks like a bog standard AEG spring.

So its er.....seriously fucking solid. Easily the best built airsoft rifle ive ever seen by a fucking mile.

How does it shoot? I don't know. I've been told it'll chrono at 350ish however. I'm imagining given its an aeg barrel and hop rubber, it'll be fairly respectable in how it shoots too. Loading mech is simple, and if you manage to break it you're a nugget who shouldn't be playing!

Impressed? you fucking bet I am!

I apoligise for the swearing, but it really is required, its THAT well built!

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My armoury;
Tanaka Kar98(1942 woodwork and parts), M1 Garand AEG(1940's woodwork and metalwork), MG34, SVT40, Mosin Nagant M44, MP40, PPSH41, Luger and PPK.

 
Posted : 28/01/2011 5:56 pm
Graeme
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I don't see theres a lot to upgrade on it?

Barrel already appears to be a tightbore, hop rubber seems ok, although I swapped it for my usual madbull blue anyways. Spring should be doing 350ish, but there are reports of some of them having bigger springs depending on the spec. Given its an AEG spring, thats easy anyway. No need to do sears, etc like you would with a VSR to go up a power band or two either.....

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My armoury;
Tanaka Kar98(1942 woodwork and parts), M1 Garand AEG(1940's woodwork and metalwork), MG34, SVT40, Mosin Nagant M44, MP40, PPSH41, Luger and PPK.

 
Posted : 28/01/2011 9:51 pm
Graeme
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Change the srping! no other upgrades required. Its that easy. It'll take SERIOUS springs....

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My armoury;
Tanaka Kar98(1942 woodwork and parts), M1 Garand AEG(1940's woodwork and metalwork), MG34, SVT40, Mosin Nagant M44, MP40, PPSH41, Luger and PPK.

 
Posted : 28/01/2011 11:22 pm
Zero Bravo
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May I ask what is the UK price for this gun? I had a quick look on the website but couldn't find it.




 
Posted : 29/01/2011 5:50 pm
greedo1980
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Sounds like a peach Grim :happyclap:

And a very sensible design if the gun uses AEG parts!

AGM MP40 - AGM STG44 - CYMA Thompson M1A1 - WE P08 4 inch - Marushin M1 Carbine GBB - AGM Sten MkII

 
Posted : 29/01/2011 6:34 pm
Graeme
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300 quid Zero bravo from AW.

Fired it today, seems good! Initial findings....strip it and loctite everything! Being a heavy metal piston it goes with an almighty whack and will shake itself to bits! There is a spring loaded pin that pushes against the magazine floor plate to hold it tight against its catch....get shot of it, it doesn't need it. It actually makes it open when it shouldnt! My real one doesn't have it, and it stays shut ;)

Don't go prodding folk with the bayonet....I was quite happily killing tough cardboard boxes with it. Goes through most stuff like a hot knife through butter, plastic or not!

Happy as a pig in shit with this thing.

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My armoury;
Tanaka Kar98(1942 woodwork and parts), M1 Garand AEG(1940's woodwork and metalwork), MG34, SVT40, Mosin Nagant M44, MP40, PPSH41, Luger and PPK.

 
Posted : 29/01/2011 7:27 pm
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Now on the website http://www.airsoftworld.net/catalog/pro ... ategory/9/



When I want your opinion - I'll tell you what it is!

 
Posted : 29/01/2011 8:52 pm
ww2stu
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has anyone got the new one (with the silver looking bolt)?

 
Posted : 29/01/2011 9:00 pm
Graeme
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Zeta Labs Mossy up against my real mossy...

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My armoury;
Tanaka Kar98(1942 woodwork and parts), M1 Garand AEG(1940's woodwork and metalwork), MG34, SVT40, Mosin Nagant M44, MP40, PPSH41, Luger and PPK.

 
Posted : 29/01/2011 9:13 pm
Graeme
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The cylinder locking set up and sear system is absolutely perfect for an enfield bolt.

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My armoury;
Tanaka Kar98(1942 woodwork and parts), M1 Garand AEG(1940's woodwork and metalwork), MG34, SVT40, Mosin Nagant M44, MP40, PPSH41, Luger and PPK.

 
Posted : 30/01/2011 1:18 pm
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The cylinder locking set up and sear system is absolutely perfect for an enfield bolt.

Does the Zeta Mosin cock when you pull the bolt back or when you push the bolt forward?

 
Posted : 30/01/2011 9:43 pm
Zero Bravo
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I'm really interested in one of these, how does it load? Do you have to buy extra mags?




 
Posted : 30/01/2011 11:39 pm
slick63
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I'm really interested in one of these, how does it load? Do you have to buy extra mags?

The mag is integral, it takes about 10 rounds. Have a look at this vid, it shows the loading procedure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWUQkoLgwQs

 
Posted : 31/01/2011 12:10 am
Zero Bravo
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No mags or pouches needed then! Thanks for that Slick :good:




 
Posted : 31/01/2011 12:22 am
Graeme
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It's a bit fiddly. The version two still has the issue of bb's being able to roll back into the receiver and jam the bolt. Working on a simple fix, will post pics soon.

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My armoury;
Tanaka Kar98(1942 woodwork and parts), M1 Garand AEG(1940's woodwork and metalwork), MG34, SVT40, Mosin Nagant M44, MP40, PPSH41, Luger and PPK.

 
Posted : 31/01/2011 8:18 am
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seems the chaps at Zeta have been working hard, another "part is soon to be available"

Number 2 on the flash slide seen here at the top of the page.

http://www.airsoftpanda.com/airsoft.php

Gas charge cocking bolt with a hop unit.

Interesting or bad ingrish?

 
Posted : 31/01/2011 10:14 pm
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Graeme could you tell me how the ZL mosin fits into the stock and how easy it would be to replace the outer barrel? I'm just wondering if it would be possible to fit the ZL internals into a real stock and fit a longer out barrel to make a M91/30. I have spare 91/30 stock sat at home doing nothing and would prefer a full length rifle over a carbine. It would be even better if it was reversable so i could have either though.

 
Posted : 02/02/2011 5:19 pm
Graeme
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Comes apart like the real thing, with the addition of having to remove the recoil pin/crossbolt on the front end of the receiver. As for making a full length rifle out of it? I wouldn't bother making a new barrel, i'd do a cut and shut job on the barrel. Cut it, extend, weld. Or if you want to be fancy you could thread the peices if theres enough wall thickness to do it. You'll run into bother getting rid of the bayonet fitting. It and the foresight look like they've been put on HOT probably before it was blued. Even with the pins out of them, gripped in a vice, the persuasion stick(a large hammer), cannot move them. Fitting it into genuine woodwork wont be a big issue, aslong as the recoil lug/cross bolts line up ok, and you'll need to remove a bit of wood from infront of the receiver. I plan on dropping mine into genuine woodwork sometime soon.
You may be easier getting a new front section turned and just welding it to the existing outer barrel.

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My armoury;
Tanaka Kar98(1942 woodwork and parts), M1 Garand AEG(1940's woodwork and metalwork), MG34, SVT40, Mosin Nagant M44, MP40, PPSH41, Luger and PPK.

 
Posted : 03/02/2011 4:48 pm
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