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ww2stu
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Quite a few lads over on the US forum have bought this rifle. Mixed reviews mainly concerning quality control issues.

Its S&T... its not like its a next Gen Marui or Inokatsuor or even a Shoei!

What do people expect for less than $150 dollars? As long as externally it looks "ok" and that it will take standard VSR parts thats all you can ask for.

Stu

 
Posted : 12/06/2015 10:24 pm
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Quite a few lads over on the US forum have bought this rifle. Mixed reviews mainly concerning quality control issues.

Its S&T... its not like its a next Gen Marui or Inokatsuor or even a Shoei!

What do people expect for less than $150 dollars? As long as externally it looks "ok" and that it will take standard VSR parts thats all you can ask for.

Stu

I don`t think they were displeased with the rifle, but a review should contain bad as well as good points hence why they brought up the QC issues. One had poor fps but once stripped and cleaned it suddenly shot fine. One was ok out of the box, whilst another has to go back as it wouldn`t shoot and the the trigger jammed. Quite a variation across three customers.
However all said that it was groundbreaking in that it`s a ww2 bolt action springer which should be practical although might need fettling. And as you mentioned for less than $150 dollars it`s a bargain, but that was the evike price, the original was about $270 I think.

 
Posted : 12/06/2015 10:39 pm
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Quite a few lads over on the US forum have bought this rifle. Mixed reviews mainly concerning quality control issues.

Its S&T... its not like its a next Gen Marui or Inokatsuor or even a Shoei!

What do people expect for less than $150 dollars? As long as externally it looks "ok" and that it will take standard VSR parts thats all you can ask for.

Stu

I don`t think they were displeased with the rifle, but a review should contain bad as well as good points hence why they brought up the QC issues. One had poor fps but once stripped and cleaned it suddenly shot fine. One was ok out of the box, whilst another has to go back as it wouldn`t shoot and the the trigger jammed. Quite a variation across three customers.
However all said that it was groundbreaking in that it`s a ww2 bolt action springer which should be practical although might need fettling. And as you mentioned for less than $150 dollars it`s a bargain, but that was the evike price, the original was about $270 I think.

Yeah gutted I didn't see the evike one as even with the discount mine works about £60 more. But there the breaks. Should have a letter arrive tomorrow about the charges. So should have it by the end of the week.

Stu

 
Posted : 14/06/2015 9:26 am
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Evike have just bumped the price up to $200, and the US forum members who bought them seem to be encountering more QC issues. Really odd when you consider that the mech is VSR based.

 
Posted : 16/06/2015 8:37 pm
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First impressions are good. Nice heft and lovely colour to the stock.

I bought a G&G scope and mount. The scope is reminiscent of cheap 4x15 air rifle scopes of my youth. The mounts are... er... not great. They do not fit this rifle without some fettling with a Dremel and a drill plus a spacer at the rear to lift the back up a touch. Obviously, being a different manufacturer, it is no surprise that the fit is not perfect. My comment is really aimed (no pun intended) at how the rear ring is mounted. It is held in place with less tan a mm of contact between the two screws that tighten up against the bottom edge of the ring. It does allow the scope to be aligned with the bore but it does seem to be very feeble. You would be wise never to pick the rifle up by grabbing the scope.


 
Posted : 19/06/2015 3:47 pm
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Got mine yesterday. Mine chronographed at 380 then 360 then 320 then backup too 360. It might need bedding in but with that much variance I'm guessing it's an air seal issue. Using mine in a skirmish today :good:

 
Posted : 20/06/2015 7:23 am
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Mine was the same, starting low at 350 then up to 380 but now fluctuates between 360 & 380.

Going to strip down and downgrade. Hopefully sort air seal and get to 350max

Mind, that was with no hop. Once there is a touch of resistance from the hop, things might improve. Will test before stripping it down.


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 11:48 am
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you should clean the grease, mine was packed of grease. May be it will work better.

I'm just coming back for my saturday game, and it was a true pleasure day, guys fall down like flies, and I had succeded epic shot
I'was playing with 0.30, xtrem
I more and more satisfied of this replica.

 
Posted : 20/06/2015 4:14 pm
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Used mine with 0.25's today with some hop, no hop, little hop and it didn't seem to shoot far for a gun which is meant to be doing 380. My TM 1911 fired furthur so will be deffinitly cracking it open in the next few weeks.

 
Posted : 20/06/2015 4:59 pm
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I stripped mine down. There was no excess grease, but the front part of the receiver was loose. This may explain the inconsistent power. I trimmed the spring and put it back together and tightened the two grub screws and now it shoots at 335 - 341 with a .2g BB. Now site friendly. The hop may need some work though as the sliding arm is plastic and may not be rigid enough. Time will tell. I can only shoot at short distances until I get on site next weekend. So far though, I am quite happy.


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 5:08 pm
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my hop up modification is very practical.
I had to adjust on the field this morning and it is very fast and effective. I recommend it.
You don't have to make it as complicated as mine. Just one hole and a screw.

 
Posted : 20/06/2015 5:28 pm
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Yes, I think a nut, glued into a recess and a long grub screw would be fine. I will see how it shoots first though.


 
Posted : 20/06/2015 6:18 pm
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Posted : 23/06/2015 5:32 pm
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While looking for a sling, I found this. I have plenty but this seems a reasonable price

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... ID=EBAY-GB


 
Posted : 26/06/2015 4:55 pm
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Problem I have is EVIKE don't like to deal with AFRA members and remove any shipping guarantee they would normally offer.

EDIT
This rifle is getting a bad slagging on EVIKE over the bolt and mag feed.

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Watch Vid
Free speech is expensive these days!

 
Posted : 19/08/2015 7:13 am
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My leather sling wouldnt fit in the rear sling loop attached to the rear of the stock. So i ordered a real steel one from the states. It fits perfectly in the hole and i can now use my "fat" leather sling.

 
Posted : 28/08/2015 10:53 am
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Make it yourself, it is not difficult.

 
Posted : 29/08/2015 4:31 pm
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Has anyone had a go at changing the standard parts with aftermarket parts?

Looking at the cylinder it seems to be different to the rest.

Any help would be greatly be appreciated.

Cheers
Stu :good:

 
Posted : 03/11/2015 3:45 pm
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I recently tried to field my M1903 at a game, and ran into two big problems:

1) The bolt locked in place. I had just cocked it and pushed it forward and down, leaving the handle down. Trigger was immobilized, and would not fire/discharge. Then, the bolt also refused to budge - the handle would not rotate up, to not even mention pulling it back again. I flipped both of the safeties to make sure it wasn't their influence, but no luck - the bolt was stuck and completely immobilized.

I ended up forcing the handle up through brute force, at which point a small piece of pot iron came out from between the bolt and the receiver when I then pulled the bolt back. Here's the odd thing: the gun still cycled and fired perfectly afterwards! No hassles, and it hasn't lock up again... *fingers crossed*

2) The BB's would not feed out of the magazine. My first thoughts were dust, or low-quality BB's (coarse surfaces sticking) - but neither are the problem (mag is still brand new and clean). The BB's just don't want to feed out of the mag once they have been pushed in via speedloader - they appear to get stuck inside the double-stack tube, and then simply sit there even when you pull the retention lip back. The old "slap on the bottom of the mag" also doesn't work - those BB's need a proper poking with a small screwdriver before they consider moving again.

Has anyone else ran into any of these problems?

 
Posted : 04/11/2015 11:30 am
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What brand of bb's are you using?

 
Posted : 04/11/2015 12:06 pm
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