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Although i don't live in the UK i still feel i can answer the Question...

Of german guns i got a:
Tanaka Kar98
Maruzen P38
Tanaka Luger (Not skirmishable in my opinion)
And then a Agm MP40...

There are a couple more german guns on the market but i havent' had my hands of any of the yet...

Shoei Mp44, Shoei MG42, a Springer Kar98 (is on the market now), a HFC C96 M712...

That's all i can remember... i know im missing a couple of guns... :roll:

Oh yes then there are the marushin guns (mp40 & Kar98) and a couple of others than should'nt be too good...

And then of course there is the Allied Guns... TM Thompson, Marushin Garand, Marushin Carbine, VFC Bar and all the lot of 1911's...

I don't know how it is for airsoft in indonesia but can't you just order from wgcshop.com..? :D

 
Posted : 19/12/2007 1:23 pm
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In the UK we have for the American team:

Marushin/custom M1 Garands,
Marushin M1 Carbines,
TM/ACM M1a1 Thompsons,
Hudson M3 Greaseguns
Custom .30cal Brownings
VFC BAR
TM/WA 1911 .45

British team:

Custom Stens
Custom Enfields
Chinese M1928 Thompson
MT/ACM M1a1 Thompson
Custom Bren Guns
TM/WA 1911 .45
M10 Revolver (Similar to Webley I think?)

 
Posted : 19/12/2007 3:16 pm
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I have a Marushin M1, and while I've never chrono'd it, it seems plenty powerful to me, especially on green gas. The enbloc 'clips' are loaded with 8 BBs, and loaded fired and ejected exactly as on the real M1. They're a bit expensive to lose, though... :wink:

EDIT: I have skirmished it, meant chrono'd

 
Posted : 19/12/2007 3:52 pm
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They're a bit expensive to lose, though... :wink:

Yeah, so don't shoot whilst you're running in dense woodland! 8)

 
Posted : 19/12/2007 4:38 pm
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I lost a plastic one at GZ earlier this year, but as long as you keep an eye on them when they eject, you should be fine. :)

 
Posted : 19/12/2007 4:45 pm
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UK limits are 350fps - although I forget if this is the average site limit or the legal limit.

AEGs are definitely the most economic BB delivery system :wink: but nothing compares to the realism of a gas gun. When it works!

 
Posted : 19/12/2007 5:10 pm
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where i shoot is normally 328 + 5% give or take. i dont think 350 is limit i think the upper most limit is 383fps but no site in uk will ever let u use that on the playing field.


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Posted : 19/12/2007 5:23 pm
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IIRC
the UK leagle limit is 1.35J (381fps w.2s)
the "guidelines" are 1J (328fps w/.2s)
The case of Moore v Gooderham set lethality @ 1.35 joules, making anything above that a "leathal weapon" in the eyes of the law

 
Posted : 19/12/2007 5:59 pm
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hi!

thx for the enlightment. your Tanaka Kar98, is it HfC gas operated? what FPS does it fire?

and it is cartridge loaded right? do you have to insert your BBs into the cartridge before loading it? and do you usually have to pick up the fallen cartridges or you just leave 'em and buy some more?

oh yes, and what type of BBs used? 8mm or 6mm?

and Shoei Mp44, Shoei MG42, what is the FPS rate on them? and do they operate using HfC gas as well?

yes I agree on marushin. the FPS is not great (only 230 using 8mm BBs)

wgcshop.com doesn't ship to indonesia.. [sad mode = on] :)

BTW, thx again for the enlightment mate!

I always use green gas in my tanaka...

It's 6mm and the BB's are in a magasine (not historic correct) but in my opinion it's better than the shells...

The FPS is great it's about 160 "!M/S!" i don't know how to calculate it into FPS though... :(

But if you want a good Kar98 Take the tanaka...

 
Posted : 19/12/2007 6:04 pm
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Some events they check before on the fps but quite often you will get random checking in game,

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Posted : 19/12/2007 6:26 pm
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Some check every gun, some randomly, some almost never! But it's normally pretty obvious if a guns a bit on the hot side.

Gun wise, as stated before we've got quite a wide selection - but if it aint in production, someone over here will tend to make one :)

IIRC
the UK leagle limit is 1.35J (381fps w.2s)
the "guidelines" are 1J (328fps w/.2s)
The case of Moore v Gooderham set lethality @ 1.35 joules, making anything above that a "leathal weapon" in the eyes of the law

Did some checking up on this. Wrong end of the stick matey, up to 1.35J is never considered "lethal" (evidence from FSS to HMG) Above this level, lethality is defined by testing on a case-by-case basis.

All the info is on Hansards if you ever get bored enough to spend an entire weekend trudging through a couple of thousand pages of text :?

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Posted : 19/12/2007 11:17 pm
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Pass!

I always go by the rule of, I wont play with a gun that I wouldn't mind being shot with myself, as a second to site restrictions of course.

 
Posted : 19/12/2007 11:19 pm
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Although I don't live in the UK I still feel I can answer the Question...

Of german guns I got a:
Tanaka Kar98
Maruzen P38
Tanaka Luger (Not skirmishable in my opinion)
And then a Agm MP40...

There are a couple more german guns on the market but I havent' had my hands of any of the yet...

Shoei Mp44, Shoei MG42, a Springer Kar98 (is on the market now), a HFC C96 M712...

That's all I can remember... I know im missing a couple of guns... :roll:

Oh yes then there are the marushin guns (mp40 & Kar98) and a couple of others than should'nt be too good...

And then of course there is the Allied Guns... TM Thompson, Marushin Garand, Marushin Carbine, VFC Bar and all the lot of 1911's...

I don't know how it is for airsoft in indonesia but can't you just order from wgcshop.com..? :D

tanaka p08 "luger" Not skirmishable in my opinion? I been using mine about a year now cuz it was my only airsoft gun till I get my tanaka k98 about a month now.

I being runing it whit duster gas, and fires at a decent 270 280fps, cleaning and lubing it allways after a skirmish y put some teflon on the inner barrel (the part that gets in to the hop up chamber) and it shoots even better cuz i dont leave the gas scape by the behind part of the cannon I haved leaking mags and I just buyed new o-rings on a place here and problem solved

it is extremly acurated at 20 meters faar than that I dont shoot I havent see other pistol here in my local sites that make headshoots at that distance and I haved shooted them (people allways whants to shoot my luger so I ask to shoot their pistols too)

the only con I have founded to this pistol is that it dont run whit propane and pc duster is dificult to find here so I dont shoot it at home all I would like to shoot whit it

PD: I know weather is hotter in this side of the world and maybe thats why I dont get too much problems whit gas presure but I just haved to defend my luger :( :wink:

By the way the k98 is exelent too Im running it whit propane and using .30 6mm bbs and it hits 4 or 6 shoots (from 10) at a satalital cable antena that is 60cm wide at a distance of 60 or 70 meters


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Posted : 20/12/2007 3:42 am
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Did some checking up on this. Wrong end of the stick matey, up to 1.35J is never considered "lethal" (evidence from FSS to HMG) Above this level, lethality is defined by testing on a case-by-case basis.[/b

hmm
looks like my bad, sorry
got it form here
http://www.ukasgb.org.uk/fcc_response.pdf
"the guidance issued by the Home Office which
states that at power levels of 1 joule or less injuries other trivial are unlikely to occur.
Atpresent the case of Moore and Gooderham does set an absolute of 1.35 joules above
which any airgun/airsoft replica is lethally barreled. Whilst some of the background to the science used in the case could be termed flawed the point remains that more recent test show that a 0.2gm air soft ball bullet will penetrate ballistic gelatin at 1.36 joules."
and here
http://www.ukasgb.org.uk/ukasgb_guidelines_v3.pdf
page 2
"The Firearms Act 1968 defines a firearm “a lethal barreled weapon of any
description from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be dischargedâ€Â

 
Posted : 20/12/2007 5:37 am
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tanaka p08 "luger" Not skirmishable in my opinion? I been using mine about a year now cuz it was my only airsoft gun till I get my tanaka k98 about a month now.

Well if you read it is MY opinion...

I rather want to run with a gun that i ain't afraid to break instead of the luger which firing pin that is made of plastic break so easy...

I would love to say that i didn't have any experience with that part of the gun but i have... And i really love the gun and it's so fun to shoot but i would'nt take it to an event... Some yard shooting is what it's good for in my opinion...

My Firing pen is broke... And i don't know where to find a new one...
I've chekked all the HK sites but there aren't anyone who has them...

 
Posted : 20/12/2007 7:57 am
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No i'm afraid it's not that part :(

It's the famous firing pen that i heard alot of people have breaked over the years sadly...

I think it's a bit sad that a company like tanaka who has the rumor of making good guns didn't want to make the part of the luger that's used the most in metal... :(

 
Posted : 20/12/2007 4:11 pm
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I have always used HFC134a gas in it...

I think the broken firing pin were broken when a buddy saw it and could'nt get the hammer down, and just tryed to push it but i'm not sure... that's why i don't have anyone to blame on it so it's me stuck with the bill for repair...

So a good idea is to not let your friends play with it before you have showed how it works...

And no thanks i already have 2 magasines :)

 
Posted : 20/12/2007 5:24 pm
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No it can be fixed if you have a new firing pin :(

 
Posted : 20/12/2007 6:29 pm
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Not if you'd manage to get one...

 
Posted : 21/12/2007 9:27 am
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Not if you'd manage to get one...

:oops: I dindt know you have your gun broken Im sorry to hear that KEP I just stand up on defense of my luger cuz so faar I havent any mayor trouble jet and Im very happy whit it :roll:

by the way I found a metal body kit for it I think its to expensive but I dont know maybe you can find it cheaper its made by a company named "zeke"

http://www.endoshoji.com/accessories/page008.html

theres the link, for tanaka p08 parts I think that you have to buy them directly from tanaka works for that you need some one who speaks japanese and can read you the manual, make a longdistance call to japan and buy it for ya (I know all that is very hard but is the only thing might work)


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Posted : 21/12/2007 5:31 pm
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